Jan. 1, 2020

Civil Disobedience, The Christmas Story, and Pro-Life Ministry

Civil Disobedience, The Christmas Story, and Pro-Life Ministry

Is it ever ok for Christians to disobey the laws of the land? In a culture with an ever-increasing rejection of God's word, oftentimes faithful believers encounter laws that contradict Biblical commands, especially when it comes to abortion. How do we...


Is it ever ok for Christians to disobey the laws of the land? In a culture with an ever-increasing rejection of God's word, oftentimes faithful believers encounter laws that contradict Biblical commands, especially when it comes to abortion. How do we as Gospel-centered pro-life ministers handle these situations? Vicky and Daniel talk through this issue Biblically and practically.

https://www.firstdallas.org/icampus/blog/three-principles-of-civil-of-civil-disobedience-/

charlotte.cities4life.org

www.sidewalks4life.com

Transcript
WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.759 I am yours. I Am Yours, I am yours, s and me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:10.869 Lord, I am yours. Welcome to the Gospel Center pro life podcast 3 00:00:10.949 --> 00:00:14.990 and this episode we're going to talk about the Christmas story and civil disobedience and 4 00:00:15.109 --> 00:00:19.070 what that has to do pro life ministry. Stay tuned for this episode. 5 00:00:20.550 --> 00:00:35.810 Lord, I felt show passish touch your heart. Welcome to the Gospel Center 6 00:00:35.890 --> 00:00:40.090 pro life podcast. We're going to talk a little bit about the Christmas story 7 00:00:40.329 --> 00:00:45.929 in this episode and some conversations that Vicky and I had had about some things 8 00:00:45.929 --> 00:00:48.969 that go on in the Christmas story and you know, after the birth of 9 00:00:49.090 --> 00:00:52.920 Jesus and to do with the wise men, and we'll jump right into it 10 00:00:53.039 --> 00:00:56.640 and Matthew Chapter two. Many of you know, of course, the story 11 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:00.240 of the birth of Jesus. Were this is the day after Christmas. Will 12 00:01:00.280 --> 00:01:03.520 recording this, and we celebrated the birth of Jesus, and we know the 13 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:08.310 story about the wise men and Matthew Conveis that story here in Matthew Chapter Two. 14 00:01:10.150 --> 00:01:11.909 And then we know the wise man before they went to see Jesus, 15 00:01:11.989 --> 00:01:17.870 they saw King Herod and King Herod, in a crafty sort of way, 16 00:01:17.989 --> 00:01:21.859 told these guys. When you find the child. Let me know so I 17 00:01:22.019 --> 00:01:23.980 too can come and worship him. What he said. Of course, we 18 00:01:25.099 --> 00:01:29.620 know what's behind his his motive. There's he wants to to try to wipe 19 00:01:29.659 --> 00:01:34.329 out this this person who may end up taking his throne. Yeah, here 20 00:01:34.370 --> 00:01:36.930 it's one of those guys that didn't want to let go of his authority in 21 00:01:37.090 --> 00:01:44.090 his and his position. And then we hear about this slaughter of the innocence. 22 00:01:44.329 --> 00:01:49.480 Is that it's called after Jesus was born and the wise man. Actually 23 00:01:49.519 --> 00:01:52.439 something I heard, by the way, just a little little rabbit trail, 24 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:56.640 which was pretty interesting. I heard a preacher talking about the wise men and 25 00:01:56.680 --> 00:02:00.200 their gifts that they brought, and there's a lot of explanation there what these 26 00:02:00.200 --> 00:02:02.750 gifts meant. The gold was the symbol of a king, you know, 27 00:02:02.829 --> 00:02:08.270 so Jesus was obviously is a king. The incense, Frankinsense, was to 28 00:02:08.389 --> 00:02:14.669 represent his divinity, right, he burned incense to the divinity, and so 29 00:02:14.830 --> 00:02:17.300 that was what that was to represent. or priestly, some people say, 30 00:02:17.379 --> 00:02:23.020 because his priestly nature. And then the Murr was for his death. You 31 00:02:23.060 --> 00:02:27.699 know, they embalmed bodies or put Murr as a spice. But this preacher 32 00:02:27.740 --> 00:02:30.530 said, yeah, those things can be true, and those things are obviously 33 00:02:30.650 --> 00:02:34.569 true aspects of who Jesus is. But he said, practically speaking, you 34 00:02:34.650 --> 00:02:38.530 have to wonder why these wise men brought these gifts to a baby. Right, 35 00:02:38.610 --> 00:02:42.449 he's shivering in the cold. He doesn't need gold. He's a blanket, 36 00:02:43.009 --> 00:02:46.800 he's a blanking, as when comedian said a bowl of soup would have 37 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:52.680 done well, other than some frankinsense. But this preacher said these were costly 38 00:02:52.759 --> 00:02:54.639 things. Obviously gold is Franktins was very colostly, and so it was. 39 00:02:54.680 --> 00:03:00.150 Murr. What if, and I think it's true, this was ordained by 40 00:03:00.189 --> 00:03:06.189 God in order to fund the trip to Egypt that Joseph and Mary and Jesus 41 00:03:06.270 --> 00:03:09.310 had to take, and that's what we're talking about here, is how they 42 00:03:09.349 --> 00:03:15.099 were under threat of being killed by King Herod Jesus was, and so an 43 00:03:15.139 --> 00:03:19.860 angel revealed to Joseph, Hey, this is going to happen, flee to 44 00:03:19.979 --> 00:03:23.740 Egypt, and so they did. And you got to wonder how they he's 45 00:03:23.740 --> 00:03:24.780 a carpenter, didn't have a lot of money. He had just had to 46 00:03:24.819 --> 00:03:30.969 go to back to his hometown, who to Bethlehem, and that was pretty 47 00:03:30.009 --> 00:03:32.330 costly. I'm sure of a trip. So how is he going to fund 48 00:03:32.370 --> 00:03:36.050 this? Well, the wise men. So that's a little little free befo 49 00:03:36.129 --> 00:03:38.409 you, guys, as you listening. That's not what this podcast is about. 50 00:03:38.490 --> 00:03:40.719 That's an interesting thing to think about. God provides, yeah, God 51 00:03:40.800 --> 00:03:45.520 does provide. In that situation, he did. But why did Jesus and 52 00:03:45.680 --> 00:03:49.240 his family have to flee to Egypt? Hmm? Yeah, it was because 53 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:53.240 of Herod. And Herod here in Matthew, Chapter Two, Verse Sixteen, 54 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:57.909 and it says when Herod saw that he was deceived by the wise men, 55 00:03:58.349 --> 00:04:02.550 he was exceedingly angry and sent forth and to put to death all the male 56 00:04:02.629 --> 00:04:08.590 children who are in Bethlehem and all its districts from two years old, according 57 00:04:08.629 --> 00:04:11.139 to the time which had been determined by the wise man. So he said, 58 00:04:11.620 --> 00:04:15.259 all these children because again, this this person was possibly going to depose 59 00:04:15.300 --> 00:04:18.339 him of His throne, because this was supposed to be a king, and 60 00:04:19.420 --> 00:04:21.699 rather than really want to worship the king, you wanted to kill the king. 61 00:04:21.779 --> 00:04:26.889 Yeah, hum. And so we're talking about actually our subject, strangely 62 00:04:26.930 --> 00:04:30.889 enough, is civil disobedience. Yeah, because this story brings to mind and 63 00:04:31.290 --> 00:04:34.370 if you look at in a lot of pro lifers throughout the years have I've 64 00:04:34.410 --> 00:04:38.680 even heard flip, who we had on some podcast to go and who we 65 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:42.600 interact with on a regular basis, talking about the the Deavil, on the 66 00:04:42.720 --> 00:04:46.560 demonic nature of the attack on children, on the attack, of course, 67 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:49.680 of the attack on the unborn, and this situation. It was two years 68 00:04:49.759 --> 00:04:59.029 and younger compared to this rage of Herod and back in Egypt, back in 69 00:04:59.230 --> 00:05:06.069 exodus chapter one, the rage of Pharaoh against the children of Israel and their 70 00:05:06.180 --> 00:05:10.579 babies who are ultimately thrown into the nol. We'll talk a will go to 71 00:05:10.660 --> 00:05:13.699 that scripture in just a second. Yeah, although it is strange, as 72 00:05:13.740 --> 00:05:18.100 I've mentioned earlier, that Jesus escapes to Egypt from Herod and then, of 73 00:05:18.180 --> 00:05:21.250 course, what happened in the days when the children of Israel, we're in 74 00:05:21.370 --> 00:05:26.050 Egypt, as they were to escape from Egypt and they were to be rescued 75 00:05:26.089 --> 00:05:31.490 from the the king of Egypt there. But this is this is the King 76 00:05:31.970 --> 00:05:38.879 Herod who is given a civil order, who's given a decree, and I 77 00:05:38.920 --> 00:05:41.759 guess there's some debate over the level of power that he had. Could he 78 00:05:41.839 --> 00:05:44.759 do this, because he was under Roman rule and he was sort of just 79 00:05:44.920 --> 00:05:48.800 a figurehead really, but he obviously had some power to be able to direct 80 00:05:49.629 --> 00:05:55.550 whatever was his palace guard or whatever to go and slaughter two years and younger. 81 00:05:55.550 --> 00:05:59.230 I mean this, this obviously was, you know, a traumatic event. 82 00:05:59.430 --> 00:06:02.310 You know, it's references back here in verse eighteen seventeen. This was 83 00:06:02.389 --> 00:06:05.699 to fulfill what was spoken by the Prophet Jeremiah, saying a voice was heard 84 00:06:05.740 --> 00:06:10.980 in Rama, lamentation, weeping, great mourning Rachel, weeping for her children, 85 00:06:11.019 --> 00:06:14.379 refusing to be comfort because they were no more. So he's repressing back 86 00:06:14.420 --> 00:06:17.019 to this scripture that was prophesied about this event and they were. You know, 87 00:06:17.139 --> 00:06:20.889 this is one of those prophecies that had application then and has application. 88 00:06:21.689 --> 00:06:26.170 You know, had application in Jeremi's Day and has application in Jesus Day. 89 00:06:26.209 --> 00:06:30.410 Yeah, so this is obviously a traumatic event. This is people having their 90 00:06:30.410 --> 00:06:33.560 children ripped out of their arms, taken and slaughtered. Yeah, I mean 91 00:06:33.560 --> 00:06:39.160 you imagine, if you're a palace guard, do you obey this this decree? 92 00:06:39.319 --> 00:06:43.959 Do you obey this Governing Authority? Yeah, and that's what we're talking 93 00:06:43.959 --> 00:06:47.910 about. Talking about some in some aspects what we deal with as sidewalk counselors, 94 00:06:47.949 --> 00:06:53.029 because we and Charlotte have dealt with a lot of decrees, a lot 95 00:06:53.069 --> 00:06:58.870 of ordinances of man that we've had to, you know, respectfully disobey and 96 00:06:59.470 --> 00:07:02.300 do what we're called to do, what we know that what is is within 97 00:07:02.379 --> 00:07:05.500 our rights to do, and we'll talk about some of that as we as 98 00:07:05.540 --> 00:07:10.100 we go on. Yeah, but biblically, how do we think about that 99 00:07:10.259 --> 00:07:13.300 sort of thing and how do we compare that to what we see in the 100 00:07:13.379 --> 00:07:18.009 Bible? Right? So let's jump back then to exodus and and I believe 101 00:07:18.089 --> 00:07:21.889 we'll get a little deeper into this. So exit is chapter one, okay, 102 00:07:23.569 --> 00:07:26.490 and if you're are with going going there already, yeah, let's go 103 00:07:26.649 --> 00:07:33.000 there. And and this is whenever the Egyptian king, Pharaoh, began to 104 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:40.040 see that the children of Israel were increasing in number and he commanded the Hebrew 105 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:44.079 midrap wives, so the midwives, to those who helped these these Hebrew women 106 00:07:44.240 --> 00:07:47.589 to deliver their children, to kill the children when they were born if they 107 00:07:47.589 --> 00:07:50.670 were male. There, which is, you know, another parallel. It 108 00:07:50.910 --> 00:07:55.230 was, yeah, the young boys, yeah, the big boys were kill 109 00:07:55.269 --> 00:07:58.189 Hilp yea. Yeah, because he didn't want he was afraid that these people 110 00:07:58.230 --> 00:08:01.819 are going to rise up and rebel against him. They were outnumbering the Egyptians, 111 00:08:01.339 --> 00:08:05.220 and he was wondering how much longer can we keep them under our thumb 112 00:08:05.860 --> 00:08:09.220 without them rebeling? And and so we need to nip this thing in the 113 00:08:09.259 --> 00:08:13.649 bud, so to speak. Yeah, yeah, so what's that scripture that 114 00:08:13.689 --> 00:08:18.970 you have there in in exodus one? Yeah, okay, so exodus one, 115 00:08:18.050 --> 00:08:22.649 verse fifteen is where it begins. Yeah, did you? Are you 116 00:08:22.769 --> 00:08:24.529 going to read it? Yeah, I'll read it. Okay. This is 117 00:08:24.569 --> 00:08:28.639 the king of Egypt spoke to the Hebrew midwives, of whom the name of 118 00:08:28.800 --> 00:08:31.799 one was you'll have to pronounce that name, Chefar off Fra. Yeah, 119 00:08:31.840 --> 00:08:37.120 Huh, I love these biblical front and Pooh Pooh as are great names. 120 00:08:37.559 --> 00:08:41.830 I've never heard someone named their child that, but they were obviously wonderful people. 121 00:08:41.110 --> 00:08:48.590 Then it was like it was Mary, yeah, it says, okay, 122 00:08:48.629 --> 00:08:50.909 yes, for sixteen, and he said, when you do the duties 123 00:08:50.950 --> 00:08:54.429 of a midwife for the Hebrew women and see them on the birth stools, 124 00:08:54.470 --> 00:08:58.419 if it is a son, then you shall kill him, and if it 125 00:08:58.580 --> 00:09:03.019 is a daughter, she shall live. Verse Seventeen. Here comes your civil 126 00:09:03.100 --> 00:09:07.580 disobedience. And this was the decree from the highest level of government that you 127 00:09:07.740 --> 00:09:13.289 could get right in probably the entire region, maybe even in the entire world 128 00:09:13.289 --> 00:09:16.850 at this point. I mean Egypt was a very powerful probably the most powerful 129 00:09:16.850 --> 00:09:18.450 nation of that time, but at least in Egypt, this was the most 130 00:09:18.490 --> 00:09:24.440 powerful voice, most powerful entity that you could get a decree from. And 131 00:09:24.519 --> 00:09:28.000 here he goes and here he decrees this thing. and verse seventeen. But 132 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.399 the midwives feared God, that's a key right there, and did not do 133 00:09:31.600 --> 00:09:37.360 as the king of Egypt commanded, but save the male children alive. So 134 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:39.950 the King of Egypt called for the midwives and said to them, why have 135 00:09:39.029 --> 00:09:43.389 you done this thing? And Save the male children alive, and the midwife 136 00:09:43.429 --> 00:09:46.470 said to Pharaoh, because the Hebrew women are not like the Egyptian women, 137 00:09:46.590 --> 00:09:50.549 for they are lively and give birth before the midwives come to them. Therefore, 138 00:09:50.629 --> 00:09:56.259 God dealt well with the midwives and the people multiplied and grew very mightily. 139 00:09:56.019 --> 00:10:01.419 This was because the the midwives feared God and he provided households for them. 140 00:10:01.460 --> 00:10:03.820 Then it goes on in verse twenty two. So Pharaoh commanded that all 141 00:10:03.860 --> 00:10:09.690 his people say the commanded all these people saying every son who was born you 142 00:10:09.730 --> 00:10:11.450 shall cast into the river and every daughter you shall save a live. And 143 00:10:11.490 --> 00:10:16.169 then we have the story of Moses and how Moses mother hid him. There's 144 00:10:16.169 --> 00:10:20.330 another civil disobedience and and she hid him until she could hide him. Two 145 00:10:20.330 --> 00:10:22.440 more put him in the bulrushes. Ultimately she was, or he was, 146 00:10:22.759 --> 00:10:30.200 adopted by Farrow's daughter and and protected rightlessly. Right, right. Yeah. 147 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:35.440 So, so it's a great story to illustrate the point, yeah, of 148 00:10:35.950 --> 00:10:39.909 an unjust law and and people's response to it. And then what? What 149 00:10:41.190 --> 00:10:43.870 were the consequences? And so when, when we were talking about this and 150 00:10:45.070 --> 00:10:48.909 trying to decide how to approach this topic, I did a little bit of 151 00:10:48.950 --> 00:10:54.820 research and I found what I thought were really good three guiding principles. This 152 00:10:54.100 --> 00:11:03.460 was from First Baptist Dallas, yeah, Org website. So three guiding principles 153 00:11:03.820 --> 00:11:09.970 of civil disobedience, okay, fee, and three guiding principal biblically. Biblically, 154 00:11:09.009 --> 00:11:13.450 yes, yes, this is this is from a Biblical perspective, from 155 00:11:13.610 --> 00:11:18.250 Gospel Focus per perspective. So and I thought they were good and and I 156 00:11:18.330 --> 00:11:20.559 think we can apply them to any of these stories that we read about civil 157 00:11:20.639 --> 00:11:24.799 disider in the frangely, as we were thinking about this subject and talking about 158 00:11:24.799 --> 00:11:28.600 this subject, as I'm going through them, thinking about, you know, 159 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:33.429 examples of civil disobedience in the scripture. You know, some come to mind 160 00:11:33.470 --> 00:11:37.149 immediately and then some I didn't really think about. Right. I didn't think 161 00:11:37.149 --> 00:11:39.590 about Daniel, the story of Daniel, until you mentioned and I should have 162 00:11:39.710 --> 00:11:43.909 because that's a common story in the story of Shadrach Meshech in a bandage. 163 00:11:43.070 --> 00:11:46.620 Yeah, so this is, I think, of very important topic that we 164 00:11:46.700 --> 00:11:50.620 talked about as it has to do with prolife ministry, because we're not just 165 00:11:50.659 --> 00:11:54.899 talking about sidewalk counseling. We're talking about in other realms of prolife ministry. 166 00:11:54.980 --> 00:11:58.980 Mean we're living in an ever increasing world that is is pro death, pro 167 00:12:00.139 --> 00:12:03.370 abortion, and not just like pro abortion in some sort of a passive way, 168 00:12:03.570 --> 00:12:07.330 like, you know, pro choice, so to speak, where you 169 00:12:07.409 --> 00:12:09.649 can choose to be pro life if you want. But I'm going to be 170 00:12:09.690 --> 00:12:15.529 pretty know these people are actively, like trying to silence prolifers actively. You 171 00:12:15.610 --> 00:12:18.279 know, I mentioned to you about in California laws that they had passed in 172 00:12:18.320 --> 00:12:26.799 California basically saying that commanding that prolife pregnancy centers have to refer for abortions or 173 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:31.309 at least point people in the direction right of people that provide abortions. Yeah, 174 00:12:31.389 --> 00:12:37.830 just like not just this is conspelled speech, like you're not just forced 175 00:12:37.870 --> 00:12:43.110 to to just be okay with an alternative, respective, we're forced to promote 176 00:12:43.740 --> 00:12:48.500 abortion right, which is which is insane. Yeah, and doctors and nurses, 177 00:12:48.620 --> 00:12:54.860 we had talked about earlier, being forced to perform abortions or they'll lose 178 00:12:54.899 --> 00:12:58.730 their jobs. Yeah, another example. Yeah. Well, like in universities 179 00:12:58.769 --> 00:13:01.250 and things, people who are training to be MD's have to, you know, 180 00:13:03.210 --> 00:13:05.690 told that they have to perform abortions, or at least be part of 181 00:13:05.809 --> 00:13:09.529 a of an abortion, in order to get their MD yeah. Yeah, 182 00:13:09.809 --> 00:13:13.720 so it's not something that that you can just say well, you know, 183 00:13:15.159 --> 00:13:18.440 maybe that's okay for you, but not for me. They're they're being actively, 184 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:22.600 yeah, told to go against God's Clear Commandments. Yeah, and and 185 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:28.070 their own counctions. Yeah. Yeah. So, so I'll go into those 186 00:13:28.070 --> 00:13:31.389 three guiding principles. Yeah, and then then we can go from there. 187 00:13:31.470 --> 00:13:37.149 So the first one, when you're thinking about civil disobedience, does it? 188 00:13:37.750 --> 00:13:46.340 Does the situation rise to the the degree that I need to disobey? Yeah, 189 00:13:46.659 --> 00:13:50.379 Higher Authority, not God, not the highest authority. Right now, 190 00:13:50.379 --> 00:13:56.929 we're talking about a governmental authority. So the first one is your disobedience based 191 00:13:56.970 --> 00:14:05.129 on clear biblical mandate. Okay. And and so do you know does does 192 00:14:05.289 --> 00:14:16.919 what you are rising up against violate something that God has clearly told you do 193 00:14:16.080 --> 00:14:20.720 not violate? Yeah. So, you know, an obvious example in the 194 00:14:20.799 --> 00:14:26.070 pro life movement is thou shall not murder. Yeah. Yeah. And what 195 00:14:26.269 --> 00:14:30.470 is support example right here in this passage to yeah, so these Hebrew Midwi 196 00:14:30.549 --> 00:14:35.230 was it says that their motivation was. They weren't just motivated it is Abe 197 00:14:35.309 --> 00:14:37.029 Farah because they didn't like him, because he had a funny hat, right, 198 00:14:39.179 --> 00:14:41.620 or whatever, because he was an Egyptian, whatever. Know, it 199 00:14:41.700 --> 00:14:46.700 says they feared God. Yes, that was that was their chief thing. 200 00:14:46.860 --> 00:14:50.940 Here in the scripture. That says that it was motivating them to disobey this 201 00:14:50.059 --> 00:14:54.929 this this edict, yes, decree, and to fear God. You must 202 00:14:54.049 --> 00:14:58.730 know God and you must know what he says. And why I think that's 203 00:14:58.730 --> 00:15:03.169 important is because I can't tell you the number of times that I have again 204 00:15:03.330 --> 00:15:07.480 our work in front of this abortion center, where I will say, do 205 00:15:07.600 --> 00:15:11.200 you know what the Bible says about the unborn? Yeah, and the sacred 206 00:15:11.240 --> 00:15:16.039 nature of that unborn life and so many of them will say, no, 207 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:20.200 I don't know. So how can you fear and obey God if you don't 208 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:24.669 even know what he says? So it's implicit in that. Yeah, these 209 00:15:24.950 --> 00:15:28.269 midwives they feared God, so they knew God. Yeah, and they knew 210 00:15:28.309 --> 00:15:33.309 his word, at least his command thou shalt not murder. Now that command 211 00:15:33.350 --> 00:15:37.460 had not yet been given. It's given later on in the in Exitus, 212 00:15:37.500 --> 00:15:41.179 Chapter Twenty, where God writes the Ten can ten commandments on tablets of stone 213 00:15:41.220 --> 00:15:45.299 with his own finger. Right, but this command is a universal thing. 214 00:15:45.460 --> 00:15:50.970 Like we know killing innocent people is wrong. We know that universally. And 215 00:15:50.210 --> 00:15:56.850 these Hebrew midwives, they knew that, they feared God and and they disobeyed 216 00:15:56.970 --> 00:16:00.610 because of that. That first principle. Does it right? Violate a clear 217 00:16:00.049 --> 00:16:03.919 command of the Lord? Is what you're being told to do by a Governing 218 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:07.279 Authority? Violated Clear Command of the Lord? Right, and and that that 219 00:16:07.399 --> 00:16:12.759 guiding principle is based on acts five twenty nine, which is Peter in the 220 00:16:14.120 --> 00:16:19.470 apostles answered. We must obey God rather than men. Yeah, so whatever 221 00:16:19.830 --> 00:16:25.870 that. That should be the first thing that we think when we're budding heads 222 00:16:25.950 --> 00:16:33.860 with a law. Does this law in some way force me to disobey God? 223 00:16:33.139 --> 00:16:37.659 Yeah, and if so, that's a law that you may need to 224 00:16:40.019 --> 00:16:47.330 be disobedient. Yea Arts. Yeah, okay. So the second guiding principle 225 00:16:47.450 --> 00:16:52.490 of civil disobedience. If you gay engage in civil disobedience, do so demonstrating 226 00:16:52.850 --> 00:16:59.769 respect for authority. Okay. And so, if you think of Daniel is 227 00:16:59.850 --> 00:17:06.119 a great example. Yeah, throughout the book of Daniel, whenever Daniel engages 228 00:17:06.799 --> 00:17:11.000 with the king who was remembered, this king, Nebuchadnezzar, was not a 229 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:15.519 God follower, right, no, no, at least not an initially. 230 00:17:15.950 --> 00:17:22.109 And so, but he deals with him with so much respect when he's commanded 231 00:17:22.750 --> 00:17:26.069 in. I you know, I don't actually have the reference from Gett. 232 00:17:26.150 --> 00:17:30.380 A man died to eat the vegetables. Okay, yeah, that's the version. 233 00:17:30.380 --> 00:17:33.980 Couple chapters. Yeah, that's first couple of chapters of Daniel. Whenever 234 00:17:33.980 --> 00:17:40.259 they're brought from Jerusalem and they're brought in the Nebuchadner, Nebuchadnezzar's house, right. 235 00:17:40.539 --> 00:17:45.690 Yeah, that's the first chapter. And Daniel Basically says, and there's 236 00:17:45.730 --> 00:17:49.329 some some reasons why, I think, when Daniel, when the guy who 237 00:17:49.329 --> 00:17:53.210 ever sees the these young boys that wants to make them strong and tough and 238 00:17:53.329 --> 00:17:56.930 whatever, right is going to feed them meat. And he says No. 239 00:17:56.809 --> 00:18:00.319 Some people say, and I think I agree, that this was meat sacrifice 240 00:18:00.319 --> 00:18:04.599 to idols. It was going against God's law. Right it was? Maybe 241 00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:11.079 pork probably was right. Yeah, and either way, Daniel was saying we 242 00:18:11.160 --> 00:18:15.430 can't eat this meat. It would defile defile us, and so let's eat 243 00:18:15.430 --> 00:18:18.829 vegetables. And then that sense, Daniel was sort of slie about this thing. 244 00:18:18.950 --> 00:18:22.789 So it wasn't like direct civil disobedience. It wasn't we going to do 245 00:18:22.950 --> 00:18:26.470 that. It was just like, well, let's eat vegetables for ten days 246 00:18:26.029 --> 00:18:30.740 and if things go well, then maybe this is a good idea for everybody. 247 00:18:30.059 --> 00:18:36.059 Yeahs pits it. He's approaching it gently and with respect. As his 248 00:18:36.380 --> 00:18:40.859 first resort, his first resort is not you know, I will not do 249 00:18:41.059 --> 00:18:45.809 this and you know, pulls, pulls out a knife for anything like that. 250 00:18:45.369 --> 00:18:51.849 He tries to basically offer a solution where he doesn't compromise in any way 251 00:18:52.529 --> 00:19:02.359 his beliefs. But but he's still present very respectfully, a counter to whatever 252 00:19:02.480 --> 00:19:06.119 this edict is. Yeah, yeah, and so he does it and does 253 00:19:06.160 --> 00:19:08.720 it like you said, very respectfully. And then going on just a couple 254 00:19:08.759 --> 00:19:12.670 of chapters past that, in Daniel Chapter three, we have the story of 255 00:19:12.950 --> 00:19:18.230 Shadrach Meshech and Abendego. Yeah, and you know, they even though they 256 00:19:18.309 --> 00:19:22.869 were pretty straightforward about this. It seems that they were. They were pretty 257 00:19:22.869 --> 00:19:27.380 respectful, and it says here, says Verse Sixteen of Chapter Three. This 258 00:19:27.539 --> 00:19:33.059 is after Nebuchanezzar had established this what ninety foot idol that people were supposed to 259 00:19:33.099 --> 00:19:36.500 when music play, they were supposed to bow down and and worship this thing. 260 00:19:36.660 --> 00:19:40.089 Several Times today, whenever the trumpet sounded or whatever, they were just 261 00:19:40.250 --> 00:19:42.609 a bow down to the sidal and then, of course they refused to because 262 00:19:42.730 --> 00:19:48.730 this violates a clear command of God. This violates clearly what we've been told 263 00:19:48.170 --> 00:19:51.970 in God's word. You know, they have the first command us not worship 264 00:19:52.009 --> 00:19:52.960 an idol. I'm the Lord, your God. You have no other gods 265 00:19:53.000 --> 00:19:56.200 before me. Second commands you should not make for yourself an idol. We 266 00:19:56.319 --> 00:20:00.279 can't do this. God has commanded us not to. It would go against 267 00:20:00.519 --> 00:20:03.559 what God's commanded, it would go against our conscious and Verse Sixteen and Chapter 268 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:08.109 Three says Shadrach Meshech and Abednego answered and said to the king, Old Nebuchadnezzar, 269 00:20:08.470 --> 00:20:11.309 we have no need to answer you in this matter. If there is 270 00:20:11.549 --> 00:20:15.109 just if that is the case, our God whom we serve, say this 271 00:20:15.230 --> 00:20:18.309 is Nebuchadnezzar, had threatened them. If you don't bow down, then you're 272 00:20:18.309 --> 00:20:22.220 going to be you going to be killed, thrown into a unto the furnace. 273 00:20:23.019 --> 00:20:26.180 Our God, whom we serve, is able to deliver us from the 274 00:20:26.220 --> 00:20:29.500 burning, fiery furnace and he will deliver us from your hand, Ole King. 275 00:20:29.940 --> 00:20:32.059 But if not, let it be known, Oh king, that we 276 00:20:32.140 --> 00:20:34.619 will not serve your gods, nor will we worship the golden image of which 277 00:20:34.619 --> 00:20:38.569 you have said, of what you have set up. So they're saying God 278 00:20:38.650 --> 00:20:41.650 can deliver us, but even if he doesn't, we're still not going to 279 00:20:41.730 --> 00:20:47.410 worship your idol. And they're not calling him names, they're they're not making 280 00:20:47.450 --> 00:20:51.200 any threats, they're just saying this is a standard we will not violate. 281 00:20:51.240 --> 00:20:55.640 Yeah, and and they do it with respect. Even look at the our 282 00:20:55.799 --> 00:21:00.799 last passage that we were talking about with the Hebrew midwives that you know, 283 00:21:00.920 --> 00:21:04.990 they're being ordered to murder babies. Yeah, and honestly, it seems like 284 00:21:06.069 --> 00:21:11.430 they would be very justified in saying, you filthy creep, what are you 285 00:21:11.710 --> 00:21:15.109 asking us to do? Have you no conscience? But they don't. They 286 00:21:15.150 --> 00:21:22.779 answered gently and kindly and and with respect. Yeah, yeah, that's not 287 00:21:22.859 --> 00:21:26.180 easy. Let me, it is not easy be especially when you look at 288 00:21:29.220 --> 00:21:33.369 what you're facing, particularly with abortion. You're facing the murder, what we 289 00:21:33.569 --> 00:21:38.730 believe is the murder of absolutely have so many innocent little babies, and I 290 00:21:38.890 --> 00:21:48.599 think our fleshly impulse is to to strike out at these vile people. Ya 291 00:21:48.799 --> 00:21:52.119 doing this, what we what? This this vile act. And Yeah, 292 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:56.599 I think even more, you know, more applicable is and you're dealing with 293 00:21:56.880 --> 00:22:00.470 governing authorities that, yeah, make up laws and that try to apply laws. 294 00:22:00.509 --> 00:22:03.309 I mean, yeah, we did with some of that. You we've 295 00:22:03.349 --> 00:22:07.670 had anything from signs that we use to show the truth about abortion and show 296 00:22:07.710 --> 00:22:11.990 the truth about a mom choosing life. We've had those signs taken out of 297 00:22:12.029 --> 00:22:18.059 our volunteers hands before. I'm actually dealing with now a federal lawsuit against the 298 00:22:18.099 --> 00:22:21.940 city of Charlotte. Yeah, so we have some experience in this realm where 299 00:22:21.940 --> 00:22:26.980 we've had, you know, laws, sound ordinances and and pigting ordinances and 300 00:22:26.059 --> 00:22:30.089 these different things that we've never really had to worry about before because we know 301 00:22:30.170 --> 00:22:33.690 we're not lawbreakers and we write with the law is. But they've been twisted 302 00:22:33.849 --> 00:22:37.450 in applied in certain ways where it's like man, in order for us to 303 00:22:37.529 --> 00:22:41.410 do what God's called us to do, we have to disobey, like we're 304 00:22:41.490 --> 00:22:47.079 called you someone wants literature, to give them literature. Yeah, that's part 305 00:22:47.119 --> 00:22:49.039 of you know, our motive ministry is part of our calling. Yeah, 306 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:53.799 and now we've been written saltations for given out literature to somebody who stops in 307 00:22:53.839 --> 00:22:56.720 the driveway and asked for it. Yeah, I mean, in a sense 308 00:22:57.000 --> 00:23:03.910 we are being told do not speak for up at this last ditch moment, 309 00:23:03.109 --> 00:23:11.029 do not speak and offer what you know can save lives and your point people 310 00:23:11.589 --> 00:23:17.059 to God. But God commands us in proverbs thirty one, eight to ten. 311 00:23:17.940 --> 00:23:22.579 Speak for those who cannot speak for yourself. So that is an unjust 312 00:23:22.660 --> 00:23:30.009 law that directly violates God's commandment to us to speak and and the methods by 313 00:23:30.089 --> 00:23:38.250 which we speak to these women is our information, literally speaking, which they, 314 00:23:38.730 --> 00:23:45.720 the authorities, have tried to shut down through the sound ordinance, and 315 00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:49.839 and Our signs, speaking with visual images. Yes, so you know, 316 00:23:51.079 --> 00:23:53.000 one of the things that I've said is we're talking about what we're dealing with 317 00:23:53.160 --> 00:23:56.549 personally, and I know what others you know. I mentioned California and the 318 00:23:56.589 --> 00:24:00.390 law that had been passed on. Thankfully that's been struck down, from what 319 00:24:00.549 --> 00:24:04.589 understand, where these pro life pregnancy centers not only have to disclose they don't 320 00:24:04.589 --> 00:24:07.470 do abortions, but they have to point people in the direction of abortions if 321 00:24:07.470 --> 00:24:11.220 they want abortions, which is ridiculous right, but you know, they had 322 00:24:11.259 --> 00:24:15.220 to push back against that and you have to make the decision because they were 323 00:24:15.380 --> 00:24:18.740 facing if they were if they were not going to obey that, they were 324 00:24:18.779 --> 00:24:23.529 facing five hundred per incident, initially when it was five hundred for the first 325 00:24:23.529 --> 00:24:29.089 incident in a thousand dollars for every an incident after that. It's like, 326 00:24:29.569 --> 00:24:33.130 can I obey this? Can I in good conscience obey not just not talking 327 00:24:33.170 --> 00:24:38.359 about pro life stuff, but actually being compelled to encourage people at least a 328 00:24:38.440 --> 00:24:41.640 point people in the direction of abortions? Like, man, there's no way 329 00:24:42.000 --> 00:24:45.160 right that I can honor God is so I think that's one of the things 330 00:24:45.319 --> 00:24:49.079 is, can I honor God and obey this. And if I'm told I 331 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:53.869 can't speak against abortion, I have to in order to honor the Lord. 332 00:24:53.910 --> 00:24:57.990 I know, the slaughter of the innocence is happening in our city, like 333 00:24:59.150 --> 00:25:02.710 in Matthew Chapter too. Yeah, I have to speak at against. Yeah. 334 00:25:02.710 --> 00:25:06.109 Yeah, and you know, sort of out of this passage, Shadrach, 335 00:25:06.150 --> 00:25:10.579 Meshech and Abednego, is there not just dealing with some I don't know, 336 00:25:11.220 --> 00:25:15.180 some sort of benign thing, edict or whatever, but this is like 337 00:25:15.220 --> 00:25:21.299 a malicious and malignant thing where they're told they have to worship this ninety foot 338 00:25:21.380 --> 00:25:26.450 idol in the public square and they respectfully. Like I said, it's hard 339 00:25:26.529 --> 00:25:27.890 because, you know, even talking about this, I'm getting fired up, 340 00:25:27.930 --> 00:25:32.170 my blood starting a ball because I man, we have a command from God, 341 00:25:32.650 --> 00:25:36.279 we have this thing called the constitution in the United States to protect these 342 00:25:36.279 --> 00:25:38.039 rights, and yet we're still having to deal with this. Yeah, these 343 00:25:38.319 --> 00:25:41.799 guys, though, they didn't have a constitution. They had God's word, 344 00:25:41.880 --> 00:25:45.119 but they didn't have, you know, different courts and things like that they 345 00:25:45.160 --> 00:25:49.150 could appeal to. They couldn't file a federal lawsuit against Nebuchadnezzar. Yeah, 346 00:25:49.910 --> 00:25:56.670 they had to face some pretty tough circumstances and they were willing to do it, 347 00:25:56.750 --> 00:25:59.789 and I think that's right to and so that goes to the third one 348 00:26:00.390 --> 00:26:06.339 of the guiding principles of civil disobedience, and it's a hard one, but 349 00:26:06.539 --> 00:26:12.859 it is critical that we be prepared to suffer the consequences. Yeah, now, 350 00:26:14.420 --> 00:26:18.009 we know that in the end God will reward us, but there can 351 00:26:18.289 --> 00:26:29.009 be dire consequences to any act of civil disobedience. So be clear that the 352 00:26:29.210 --> 00:26:34.039 law that you are regarding as unjust and that you are going to disobey is, 353 00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:41.599 is it truly a a law that forces you to compromise? It's a 354 00:26:41.799 --> 00:26:47.750 moral law, yeah, or an immoral law that causes you to compromise your 355 00:26:48.390 --> 00:26:52.230 ability to honor and glorify God? Yeah, and if it is, yeah, 356 00:26:52.470 --> 00:26:57.829 I think you have no choice but to to fight that. Yeah, 357 00:26:57.910 --> 00:27:03.500 absolutely. Well, let's go into Daniel, chapter six, I believe it 358 00:27:03.619 --> 00:27:06.619 is. Yeah, Daniel Chapter Six. This is another story, of course, 359 00:27:06.660 --> 00:27:08.420 we all know. My Name's Daniel, so Daniels. So that's your 360 00:27:08.460 --> 00:27:11.579 favorite book, right, favorite. This nicely my favorite book of the Bible, 361 00:27:11.700 --> 00:27:15.890 though, but it's one of my favorite yes, and in the story 362 00:27:15.930 --> 00:27:19.329 of Daniel Daniel in the lions den. When I tell people in my name 363 00:27:19.569 --> 00:27:22.809 and they're like how I need to remember that, it's easy. Daniel the 364 00:27:22.890 --> 00:27:26.569 license, just remember the guy in the lions didn't right. Of course, 365 00:27:26.809 --> 00:27:30.680 the stay of the story of Daniel the lions didn't begins with an unrighteous edict 366 00:27:32.599 --> 00:27:37.839 from King Darius. In this situation where these men, apparently some of the 367 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.279 Council Darius, were jealous of Daniel because he was favored by the king and 368 00:27:41.400 --> 00:27:45.910 they convinced him to make up this this new law that you can't pray for 369 00:27:45.950 --> 00:27:48.269 a certain amount of time. I think it was thirty days or something like 370 00:27:48.349 --> 00:27:56.589 that, to any other deity or any other God or any other entity except 371 00:27:56.589 --> 00:28:00.619 for the king. And and when this was passed, here's what it says 372 00:28:00.700 --> 00:28:04.539 in Daniel, chapter six and verse eight. Now, when Daniel knew that 373 00:28:04.619 --> 00:28:08.180 the writing was signed, so this law was passed, you know it was 374 00:28:08.259 --> 00:28:14.170 signed, he went home and in his upper room with his window open toward 375 00:28:14.210 --> 00:28:17.250 Jerusalem. So he didn't do it in silence, he didn't do it behind 376 00:28:17.289 --> 00:28:21.930 closed doors, he opened his window towards Jerusalem. So, and it's with 377 00:28:22.049 --> 00:28:25.490 his window opened towards Jerusalem he knelt down on his knees three times that day 378 00:28:25.769 --> 00:28:30.079 and prayed and gave thanks before his God, as was his custom since early 379 00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:34.000 days. Daniel apparently did this all the time. This is his custom, 380 00:28:34.079 --> 00:28:38.279 this is what he did. Never had a problem till they passed this law 381 00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.710 and rather than saying wow, I maybe I should obey this thing, maybe 382 00:28:42.710 --> 00:28:48.430 I should go and hide and and pray in secret. I mean the Bible 383 00:28:48.509 --> 00:28:51.509 says you should pray in secrets, what Jesus says. So I can justify 384 00:28:51.670 --> 00:28:53.670 by just close step out of your custom, because obviously they're going to be 385 00:28:53.710 --> 00:28:56.660 they know your custom, they're going to be looking for here. You're setting 386 00:28:56.700 --> 00:29:00.539 yourself up for failure here. D Yeah, Daniel, what are you doing 387 00:29:00.660 --> 00:29:03.180 here? Don't you know you should obey the governing authorities? And yet he 388 00:29:03.380 --> 00:29:07.819 goes with his window open now, right, didn't believe it all. Right 389 00:29:07.859 --> 00:29:10.690 after that, right right after they said it, he goes open the window. 390 00:29:10.730 --> 00:29:12.250 I mean it says now when he knew. When Daniel knew, so 391 00:29:12.569 --> 00:29:15.690 he knew this thing. So it was like here's the here's the cause and 392 00:29:15.730 --> 00:29:18.089 effects, and I found out this thing. So he went rite home and 393 00:29:18.170 --> 00:29:22.490 pray. Now I don't think it was Daniel's motive at all, because you 394 00:29:22.569 --> 00:29:26.920 look at this guy, who's just a humble man, love God, that 395 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:30.319 he was doing this for show. I mean open his window for show. 396 00:29:30.400 --> 00:29:33.240 Knows, there's this customs we always they did, right, this is yeah, 397 00:29:33.240 --> 00:29:37.119 he prayed and he prayed toward Rusalem three times a day. Yeah, 398 00:29:37.160 --> 00:29:42.190 he kept doing what he had done and ultimately he's apprehended and he's thrown into 399 00:29:42.230 --> 00:29:45.069 the lions den and, you know, by God's grace he was saved. 400 00:29:45.710 --> 00:29:49.029 But he knew full well, knew that he could be eaten by the Lions. 401 00:29:49.390 --> 00:29:56.140 Yeah, and and yet he still did this act of civil disobedient right, 402 00:29:56.180 --> 00:30:00.940 right, and he suffered the consequences and in this case, as in 403 00:30:00.980 --> 00:30:06.619 the case with the Hebrew midwives, God stepped in and saved him. Yeah, 404 00:30:07.289 --> 00:30:10.809 it's sad. With Chad Rach Mescheck in a Bandigo, God's diving rescue 405 00:30:10.809 --> 00:30:14.769 right from the fiery fern, right, but he doesn't always know, you 406 00:30:14.849 --> 00:30:18.849 know, he doesn't always and I think we have to be prepared for the 407 00:30:18.970 --> 00:30:25.519 fact that we may suffer. And you know, Jesus is a perfect example 408 00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:30.160 of that. He he did not answer Herod was Adhrod that was questioning him. 409 00:30:30.200 --> 00:30:34.319 And he was and pilot and he was just silent and he could have 410 00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:38.950 rescued himself there, but he would not answer you. The only answer gay, 411 00:30:40.069 --> 00:30:42.150 just as Satans pilot was like, don't you know, I have the 412 00:30:42.190 --> 00:30:45.789 power to set you free. And he says you have no power except that 413 00:30:45.910 --> 00:30:48.230 which is given to you. Basically, you're under God's authority. Right, 414 00:30:48.269 --> 00:30:52.579 ultimately, man put yourself in check. And you know what, honestly, 415 00:30:52.700 --> 00:30:57.500 that is a great guiding principle as well as well that statement by Jesus. 416 00:30:57.579 --> 00:31:02.299 You would have no power unless it was given to you by God. And 417 00:31:02.579 --> 00:31:04.609 so you know, when we go forth, if we keep that in our 418 00:31:04.690 --> 00:31:11.930 heart and mind, we remember that we serve the God of all power. 419 00:31:12.210 --> 00:31:18.369 Yeah, and and it is to I mean that's that brings me to some 420 00:31:18.490 --> 00:31:21.599 of the pastors that we were talking about that are sort of difficult. So 421 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:25.119 we can is there are some. Yeah, we had passages. We talked 422 00:31:25.119 --> 00:31:30.640 about the civil civil disobedience passages, some of those at least, and you 423 00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.390 know how God honored those people. And I believe, no matter what, 424 00:31:33.509 --> 00:31:37.269 listen, if Shadwick Mischannak in a BANDAGO would have been consumed in the fiery 425 00:31:37.349 --> 00:31:41.470 furnace. Still, God would have honored them in eternity. Right. But 426 00:31:41.549 --> 00:31:44.950 God honored them in that case by saving them. The Hebrew midwise, in 427 00:31:44.990 --> 00:31:48.700 the same and Daniel the same even if. But their motive was not that 428 00:31:48.819 --> 00:31:51.660 God's going to rescue me. Their motive was I'm going to honor God no 429 00:31:51.740 --> 00:31:55.180 matter what. Honor them no matter what. But we have here in Roman 430 00:31:55.180 --> 00:31:59.380 chapter thirteen. This is where my mind always goes when I'm thinking about governing 431 00:31:59.420 --> 00:32:04.369 authorities and dealing with the government and that sort of thing, and I'm kind 432 00:32:04.410 --> 00:32:07.690 of give well, let's just read the passage, okay, and Romans Thirteen, 433 00:32:07.730 --> 00:32:10.690 verse one. Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities, for 434 00:32:10.769 --> 00:32:15.079 there's no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by 435 00:32:15.079 --> 00:32:20.319 God. Therefore, whoever resists the Authority resists the ordinance of God, and 436 00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:23.079 those who resist will bring judgment on themselves, for rulers are not a terror 437 00:32:23.119 --> 00:32:27.240 to good works, but evil. Do you want to be unafraid of the 438 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:30.269 Authority? Do what is good and you will have praise from the same, 439 00:32:30.150 --> 00:32:34.950 for he is God's minister to you for good, but if you do evil, 440 00:32:35.109 --> 00:32:37.630 be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain, for 441 00:32:37.750 --> 00:32:40.549 he is God's minister and Avenger to execute wrath on Him who practices evil. 442 00:32:40.589 --> 00:32:44.700 Therefore, you must be subject, not only too because of wrath, but 443 00:32:44.779 --> 00:32:50.259 also for constant sake, for because of this you will pay taxes. You 444 00:32:50.420 --> 00:32:53.859 also, you also pay taxes for their God's ministers attending continually to this very 445 00:32:53.980 --> 00:32:58.650 thing, render taxes so basicly, he's talking about taxes. I don't think 446 00:32:58.650 --> 00:33:00.890 that's the only context here. We saw tags. I think it's primary context 447 00:33:01.210 --> 00:33:05.930 where's talking about taxes, and so some Christians might ask the question, do 448 00:33:06.049 --> 00:33:08.529 I need to pay my taxes? And Yeah, you do, and Jesus 449 00:33:08.569 --> 00:33:12.529 even said that. Yeah, give the seas as, those that are caesars 450 00:33:12.569 --> 00:33:16.000 and right to God this thing. But how do we how do we view 451 00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:19.839 this, this passage, in light of what we're talking about, because we're 452 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:25.160 looking at Old Testament examples, and we mentioned and we'll mention again, probably 453 00:33:25.200 --> 00:33:31.549 we need to read those passages and Romans or acts. Sorry about these apostles 454 00:33:31.670 --> 00:33:37.269 who disobeyed, and so they had some commands from governing authorities, and yet 455 00:33:37.309 --> 00:33:42.940 this passage just telling us that we need to obey those governing authorities. Yeah, 456 00:33:43.460 --> 00:33:49.299 let me jump on to the first Peter Passage right because I think it 457 00:33:49.380 --> 00:33:52.259 ties in its pretty much the same themes. Is What Paul's given enrollments. 458 00:33:53.700 --> 00:33:58.009 But it says, and you know this is all those who are listen, 459 00:33:58.089 --> 00:34:00.170 Peter. What First Peter Chapter Two? Okay, and you know I'm a 460 00:34:00.250 --> 00:34:04.609 context guy. I don't like to just read a passage out of its context. 461 00:34:04.730 --> 00:34:07.849 But I won't read the greater context of this passage because I think it's 462 00:34:07.849 --> 00:34:10.400 pretty obvious. But for those who want to just read first Peter, it's 463 00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:15.199 very short. You'll get the context of what Peter's talking about here, but 464 00:34:15.239 --> 00:34:17.679 I'll jump into verse thirteen. It says therefore, and you know, when 465 00:34:17.679 --> 00:34:21.079 there's a therefore, you should look back and see what it's there for. 466 00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:23.159 So I encourage you to look at the context of this. But therefore submit 467 00:34:23.199 --> 00:34:28.110 yourselves to every ordinance of Man for God's sake, rather through the king of 468 00:34:28.190 --> 00:34:31.110 supreme or to governors, as those who are sent by him for the punishment 469 00:34:31.110 --> 00:34:35.670 of evildoers and for the praise of those who do good, for this is 470 00:34:35.710 --> 00:34:38.420 the will of God that by doing good, you may put the science ignorance 471 00:34:38.539 --> 00:34:43.900 of foolish men as free. Yet not using liberty as a cloak for vice, 472 00:34:44.099 --> 00:34:46.260 but as bond servants of the Lord, Honor All people, love the 473 00:34:46.340 --> 00:34:51.500 Brotherhood, fear God, honor the king. So again, here's here's a 474 00:34:51.619 --> 00:34:54.050 context. Or we're dealing with obedience to government. You know, Paul says, 475 00:34:54.090 --> 00:34:59.610 submit yourself to every ordinance of Man. Peter says, submit yourselves to 476 00:34:59.650 --> 00:35:04.889 every ordinance of Man. And we're talking about ordinances, right, we're dealing 477 00:35:04.929 --> 00:35:09.960 with what we believe to be some unjust ordinances here in Charlotte and looking around, 478 00:35:10.360 --> 00:35:15.199 you know there's some unjust ordinances, some things. That calls prolife ministries 479 00:35:15.239 --> 00:35:19.760 to have issues. Well, not just even your life. Let's just look 480 00:35:19.800 --> 00:35:24.630 at abortion. Yeah, abortion in and of itself is allowed my law. 481 00:35:25.030 --> 00:35:28.630 Yeah, our country. Yeah, yes, I'm say, it's the it's 482 00:35:28.670 --> 00:35:30.510 the law of the land, you know. Right, Rudy weight, right, 483 00:35:30.750 --> 00:35:32.710 but yeah, by the way, Ruby weight is not a law. 484 00:35:32.869 --> 00:35:38.420 Right. The courts, because of the constitution, are not to make laws, 485 00:35:39.500 --> 00:35:44.059 but they have in some senses, which is horrible. Right. That 486 00:35:44.179 --> 00:35:45.980 could be a podcast for another day. That's because that would be along going 487 00:35:46.059 --> 00:35:52.449 to go through. Yeah, but yeah, so we look at these ordinances 488 00:35:52.530 --> 00:35:55.809 of man and we look at some of the hindrances that they cost us personally, 489 00:35:58.610 --> 00:36:01.809 and we're like, we have to do what you know. Let's go 490 00:36:01.889 --> 00:36:05.800 back to the to acts. And this is what they said in the book 491 00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:10.519 of acts. Okay, they were told by the governing authorities and acts chapter 492 00:36:10.719 --> 00:36:15.039 four, I believe it is. And you know, they were preaching the 493 00:36:15.079 --> 00:36:21.349 name of Jesus, they were healing people in the name of Jesus and ultimately 494 00:36:21.429 --> 00:36:25.070 the Pharisees who were rulers, they were in charge. Hmm, in some 495 00:36:25.230 --> 00:36:30.230 ways. Now, they weren't in complete charge because Romans, the Romans ruled 496 00:36:30.230 --> 00:36:35.940 Jerusalem and and the whole area of Israel there, but they at least had 497 00:36:36.019 --> 00:36:40.579 some authority and there at least you know, religious and you know secular one 498 00:36:40.579 --> 00:36:46.530 elsa secular bit governmental authorities. And it says in verse thirteen of Acts Chapter 499 00:36:46.690 --> 00:36:52.090 Four. Now and they it's the Pharisees or the the Sahedron, so the 500 00:36:52.130 --> 00:36:55.090 Pharisees is said to season and the other rulers there in Jerusalem, when they 501 00:36:55.090 --> 00:37:00.090 saw the boldness of Peter and John and perceive that they were uneducated and untrained 502 00:37:00.130 --> 00:37:02.239 men, they marveled and they realize that they had been with Jesus. So 503 00:37:02.360 --> 00:37:07.079 they recognize this thing about them that had been with Jesus and seeing the man 504 00:37:07.119 --> 00:37:08.679 who had been healed standing with them, they could say nothing against it. 505 00:37:09.480 --> 00:37:15.599 But it basically what happens is they take these guys into their authority, to 506 00:37:15.639 --> 00:37:21.789 their custody, and they beat them actually for healing a man. Yeah, 507 00:37:21.829 --> 00:37:27.550 for healing a man. And and it says this is them conversing with themselves. 508 00:37:27.789 --> 00:37:30.980 But so that it spreads no further among the people, let us severely 509 00:37:30.099 --> 00:37:36.460 threatened them that they now, that they now they speak in the name of 510 00:37:36.539 --> 00:37:38.940 Jesus. No more. So they're not supposed to speak in Jesus name it. 511 00:37:39.300 --> 00:37:42.940 So they called them a commanded them that they should not speak nor teach 512 00:37:43.179 --> 00:37:45.010 in the name of Jesus. But Peter and John, and this is the 513 00:37:45.050 --> 00:37:51.050 same Peter That wrote first Peter. Okay, so there's some context here and 514 00:37:51.449 --> 00:37:54.250 there's some there's things that we need to reconcile in our understanding here, which 515 00:37:54.289 --> 00:37:58.570 we'll talk about. But Peter and John answered and said to them whether it 516 00:37:58.719 --> 00:38:00.039 is right, in the sight of God, to listen to you more than 517 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:05.239 God, you Judge Verse Twenty. I love this passage, for we cannot 518 00:38:05.639 --> 00:38:09.719 but speak the things which we have seen and heard. And so when they 519 00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:15.230 had further threatened them, they let them go, finding no way of punishing 520 00:38:15.269 --> 00:38:19.110 them because of the people, since they all glorified God for what had been 521 00:38:19.150 --> 00:38:23.949 done. And so this man's healed, God's glorify the Gospels preached. These 522 00:38:24.030 --> 00:38:29.900 guys are ticked off. So they arrest Peter and John and there threatened them. 523 00:38:30.019 --> 00:38:31.019 I said, they beat them if they didn't in this pastor. I 524 00:38:31.059 --> 00:38:37.699 think later on they actually do. Okay, and then they threatened them, 525 00:38:37.739 --> 00:38:39.500 tell them to can't speak. No, no more speaking in the name of 526 00:38:39.539 --> 00:38:43.650 Jesus. No, we're preaching this Gospel about this Jesus. Okay, we 527 00:38:43.769 --> 00:38:45.889 don't hear the stuff anymore because we're gonna we're going to put you to death, 528 00:38:45.969 --> 00:38:50.730 whatever they threaten them with. Yeah, and Peter and John's response is 529 00:38:50.969 --> 00:38:53.250 you judge for yourself whether it's right for us to listen to you or to 530 00:38:53.369 --> 00:38:57.920 God. For us, we're going to listen to God. Yeah, we 531 00:38:58.039 --> 00:39:00.800 can't help it. He's basically saying, we can't help it, we can't 532 00:39:00.840 --> 00:39:04.039 help but speak the things which we have seen, in which we have heard 533 00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:07.000 what he's talking about. The Death Bear on resurrection of Jesus and the miracles 534 00:39:07.079 --> 00:39:13.309 that Jesus had performed, this majesty of this Glorious Savior. We can't keep 535 00:39:13.309 --> 00:39:15.670 our mouth shut about this thing. It's not just that we don't want to, 536 00:39:15.789 --> 00:39:19.829 it's like we can't, we can't help we have to speak this this 537 00:39:20.389 --> 00:39:23.820 truth about Jesus, and in the same way with us and the application that 538 00:39:23.900 --> 00:39:28.940 we're dealing with here in Charlotte. I mean, we've been struck, of 539 00:39:29.059 --> 00:39:31.739 course, with the Majesty of Jesus and we can't help but preach the Gospel, 540 00:39:32.539 --> 00:39:37.380 but also we've been, you know, dealt with the Holy Spirit for 541 00:39:37.500 --> 00:39:40.489 what's happening in our city, the fact that little baby boys and little baby 542 00:39:40.530 --> 00:39:45.289 girls are being murdered just minutes away from our churches, from our homes. 543 00:39:45.969 --> 00:39:50.250 Like we have to speak against this thing. We have and we've seen the 544 00:39:50.409 --> 00:39:53.119 effect of speaking against this. We've seen MOMS choose life. We just had 545 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:59.280 the day after Christmas. Today we just had a mom who had had an 546 00:39:59.320 --> 00:40:04.280 abortion broken yeah, and was coming actually to the abortion clinic again, actually 547 00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:07.000 hoping that we would be there right. Thankfully, by God's grace, we 548 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.510 were right and we shared the truth with her. She chose life for that 549 00:40:09.630 --> 00:40:15.230 baby and she's getting ministered to from her previous abortion and, like man, 550 00:40:15.309 --> 00:40:16.829 we've seen the result of this thing. We know what God can do. 551 00:40:16.989 --> 00:40:22.980 We must speak this truth. To withhold this truth would be a crime against 552 00:40:22.059 --> 00:40:27.900 God and against these women. Yeah, ultimately you'll be held account by someone 553 00:40:28.059 --> 00:40:31.380 to account. Yeah, it be held to account by God for what you 554 00:40:31.579 --> 00:40:35.340 have done or haven't done? Or will it be held to account by, 555 00:40:36.289 --> 00:40:38.690 you know, some Civic Authority, Civil Authority, for what you have done 556 00:40:38.730 --> 00:40:47.570 or or not done? And certainly my my preference is that my heart would 557 00:40:47.650 --> 00:40:53.400 long to be held to account by God and to have done what he has 558 00:40:53.519 --> 00:40:58.119 commanded us to do. What or one of the things? And you know, 559 00:40:58.199 --> 00:41:01.320 we're not not going to be able to get into the depth of Romans, 560 00:41:01.360 --> 00:41:05.829 chapter thirteen and all the back and forth arguments about that. Maybe we 561 00:41:05.869 --> 00:41:08.510 will at some future podcast, maybe have someone on WHO's smarter than us about 562 00:41:08.510 --> 00:41:14.150 this stuff. But one of the things I will say is that in Romans 563 00:41:14.590 --> 00:41:17.900 and in Peter What Peters talking about, you're dealing with, you know, 564 00:41:17.980 --> 00:41:23.219 a literal empire, a monarchy where you have the highest level of government is 565 00:41:23.420 --> 00:41:28.820 the emperor. Is the Roman emperor, and that's what you're dealing with. 566 00:41:28.940 --> 00:41:31.739 That context, in the context we're dealing with here in the United States of 567 00:41:31.780 --> 00:41:36.849 America. You know what the highest level of government is in this country, 568 00:41:37.849 --> 00:41:40.210 the highest level of the highest authority in this country, in our country? 569 00:41:42.289 --> 00:41:46.199 Well, yes, I would assume it's congress. President. No, no, 570 00:41:46.800 --> 00:41:51.519 actually, some no, court, not a not gonna happen. No, 571 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:55.599 the constitution. Oh, of course, the constitution is what gives these 572 00:41:57.000 --> 00:42:00.789 it's what lays out these different areas of government, these three branches of government 573 00:42:00.869 --> 00:42:04.710 or all they wouldn't exist. It wouldn't for the constitution. Now, it's 574 00:42:04.750 --> 00:42:07.829 true that not necessarily everyone in government is going to abide or agree with that. 575 00:42:07.989 --> 00:42:12.789 They're right kind of rewriting their own little constantation. That's the that's the 576 00:42:12.869 --> 00:42:15.460 issue. Yeah, so the highest level of government that we have to obey 577 00:42:15.460 --> 00:42:20.300 in this country is the constitution, and there are things that are very plain 578 00:42:20.460 --> 00:42:23.260 in the constitution, like the freedom of speech. Yeah, we shall not 579 00:42:23.380 --> 00:42:27.380 be infringed upon. I mean, come on, you can't get more clear 580 00:42:27.539 --> 00:42:31.610 than that. And yet these there are government entities that try to circumvent or 581 00:42:31.650 --> 00:42:37.050 usurp the authority that the constitution has in this country and that creates a lot 582 00:42:37.130 --> 00:42:40.210 of problems. Yeah, it's so one of the the appeals that I make. 583 00:42:40.289 --> 00:42:45.039 You know, if I'm going to give out a pamphlet to a mom 584 00:42:45.119 --> 00:42:47.320 that's going into an abortion clinic and I'm threatened with a CETACEAN for stepping into 585 00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:51.599 the driveway or for stepping around a police barricade or whatever. And this you 586 00:42:51.639 --> 00:42:54.800 know well, the weird threats. One of our guys got jaywalking a couple 587 00:42:54.800 --> 00:42:59.429 of weeks ago for walking across the street and given literature. It's like this 588 00:42:59.590 --> 00:43:02.309 not in because there's yeah, cross the crosswalk, because the crosswalk within a 589 00:43:02.349 --> 00:43:05.710 mile and I have it. It's funny, but it stinks because we have 590 00:43:05.750 --> 00:43:07.630 to get a quart over this, we have to fight this, we have 591 00:43:07.670 --> 00:43:10.309 to get a lawyer in all this. It's ridiculous, right, but it's 592 00:43:10.349 --> 00:43:15.460 like I have to do that if I know it can save a baby's life. 593 00:43:15.980 --> 00:43:20.260 And also I know according to the constitution I have a right to speak 594 00:43:20.300 --> 00:43:24.539 or giving literature is speech. To give literature to somebody that asks for Yes, 595 00:43:24.739 --> 00:43:29.610 I know I'm not violating my conscience. I'm honoring God first and foremost, 596 00:43:29.849 --> 00:43:31.369 but I'm also I'm not violating the law of the land because it's the 597 00:43:31.409 --> 00:43:37.289 constitution. Yeah, so there are certainly constitutional portions of the Constitution, such 598 00:43:37.329 --> 00:43:43.360 a slavery, that that I do think, violate gods. Yeah, absolutely. 599 00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:46.840 And so there are times when the highest law of the land is immoral. 600 00:43:47.000 --> 00:43:51.320 Yeah, and absolutely it is unjust. And then that, you know, 601 00:43:51.519 --> 00:43:54.750 then God is, though, supreme. Yeah, above it all. 602 00:43:55.269 --> 00:43:59.590 One of the things I would have a hard time with the the Romans Thirteen 603 00:43:59.630 --> 00:44:02.030 finding like a whole to be able to say, okay, you can, 604 00:44:02.789 --> 00:44:07.110 you can kind of disregard that. But in the was it in the first 605 00:44:07.150 --> 00:44:13.179 Peter? There's Peter beausage. It says fear God to write, and there 606 00:44:13.900 --> 00:44:17.539 in the list of things was fear God. And so in the list of 607 00:44:17.739 --> 00:44:22.579 who were your to honor and obey, God is clearly mentioned fear God. 608 00:44:22.739 --> 00:44:27.730 And of course, throughout the Bible God's Word is Supreme. Yeah, so 609 00:44:28.130 --> 00:44:31.610 when he's in the list and you've you can then kind of pick, well, 610 00:44:31.690 --> 00:44:37.570 which one of my kind of honor and and if the laws of men 611 00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:42.840 contradict the laws of God, I think you could make an argument in that 612 00:44:43.000 --> 00:44:46.800 passage well, fear God is is the most important. Yeah, so I 613 00:44:46.920 --> 00:44:50.719 don't know if that's true in the Romans. Thirteen one, I didn't really 614 00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:52.349 pick up any. Yeah, like I said, it's impossible for us to 615 00:44:52.429 --> 00:44:55.710 dig in the meat of that. But I will say just practically. You 616 00:44:55.829 --> 00:45:01.309 know, the Apostle, peter is not contradicting himself. When are whereas before, 617 00:45:01.349 --> 00:45:06.309 he disobeyed and did it respectfully the governing authorities. I say we can't, 618 00:45:06.349 --> 00:45:07.099 we have to speak in the name of Jesus, even they were, 619 00:45:07.139 --> 00:45:13.179 they were told not to. Yeah, and Paul of course himself knowing that 620 00:45:13.340 --> 00:45:16.099 in many scenarios he could be arrested, and it was. You know, 621 00:45:16.219 --> 00:45:21.809 he was told actually in acts later on the governing authorities in Jurus. Some 622 00:45:21.929 --> 00:45:23.369 didn't like Paul so much either. You know, I don't know if he's 623 00:45:23.409 --> 00:45:27.570 directly told. Don't recall him being directly told don't speak in the name of 624 00:45:27.610 --> 00:45:30.610 Jesus, but he was arrested and ultimately given over to the Romans, yeah, 625 00:45:30.730 --> 00:45:36.000 for what seems to be an act of civil disobedience. So there's there's 626 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:38.400 some context that I think can easily be, I consolid again, we're not 627 00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:43.639 going to be able to do it right here, right now. That lets 628 00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:46.679 us know that there are acts of sizzle, civil disobedience, and we see 629 00:45:46.679 --> 00:45:51.789 that, course, in the passage. We read in Daniel and in exodus 630 00:45:52.469 --> 00:45:54.550 that there are times when, in order to honor God, you have to 631 00:45:54.630 --> 00:46:00.550 disobey governing a thorn. Yeah, yeah, but it does create, I 632 00:46:00.590 --> 00:46:05.420 don't know if that's where you're going. It does create some questions about, 633 00:46:06.219 --> 00:46:08.260 well, how far do you take that? It does, it does, 634 00:46:08.420 --> 00:46:15.460 and I think it's really important. Something that I was thinking about as I 635 00:46:15.739 --> 00:46:22.809 was researching this subject was in all the examples of civil disobedience from an individual 636 00:46:23.210 --> 00:46:30.690 who loved the Lord in the Bible, do I ever see an example where 637 00:46:30.730 --> 00:46:36.519 violence was used? Yeah, and I don't. I can't recall. And 638 00:46:36.639 --> 00:46:43.000 in fact I think Jesus's example is clear that we don't respond with violence. 639 00:46:43.239 --> 00:46:46.869 Maybe he's arrested, unjustly, arrested for crimes he never committed. Yeah, 640 00:46:47.150 --> 00:46:52.630 in the garden of cassemone and and one of his disciples cuts off the ear 641 00:46:52.789 --> 00:46:57.590 of one of slee exactly the opposite, right, yeah, he didn't even 642 00:46:57.630 --> 00:47:00.429 grab a sword with Peter he rightly, he's the gas ere. Heals the 643 00:47:00.659 --> 00:47:09.139 ear and and so I don't think of the things that were called not to 644 00:47:09.300 --> 00:47:15.090 do in being civilly disobedient. I don't think we're called to violence. Yeah, 645 00:47:16.409 --> 00:47:20.050 I don't see that. Biblically, yeah, I don't either. And 646 00:47:20.329 --> 00:47:23.090 of course that's where folks mind will go. If you can just violate laws 647 00:47:23.969 --> 00:47:28.329 with then wow, what's holding you back from violating whatever, any law? 648 00:47:28.369 --> 00:47:32.639 Yeah, but what's holding this bag if you violate a law that you see 649 00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:37.360 is unjust? Number one is you don't just do it Willie Neilly. You 650 00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:42.000 don't just do it off the cuff and just disregard the law. You've considered 651 00:47:42.119 --> 00:47:46.349 the law, you've thought about what this thing might you know for the consequences 652 00:47:46.389 --> 00:47:51.789 might be, but also the context of this law and how it contradicts the 653 00:47:51.829 --> 00:47:54.510 ord to God and the convictions of your heart. So you don't just do 654 00:47:54.630 --> 00:47:59.820 it right off the cuff, Willie neely. It's something that you you have 655 00:48:00.019 --> 00:48:01.699 well, you thought it through. Yeah, and you know, as I'm 656 00:48:01.739 --> 00:48:06.659 thinking through, these three principles in the middle one of respect. You know, 657 00:48:06.820 --> 00:48:09.619 just again from our example on the sidewalk, not that we're a perfect 658 00:48:09.659 --> 00:48:17.809 example by any means, but but whenever there has been something proposed by the 659 00:48:17.969 --> 00:48:24.130 officers out there as the law that they're you know, at least the law 660 00:48:24.130 --> 00:48:30.719 of the day. We, I think, pretty uniformly respectfully approach them and 661 00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:35.800 respectfully challenge. Well, can you show us that? Yeah, we asked, 662 00:48:36.000 --> 00:48:38.079 you know, show us. Show US where where they're always sad what? 663 00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:45.710 And and and then we have often used, I think, creative ways 664 00:48:45.269 --> 00:48:53.389 to abide by the law but still be able to do what we know we're 665 00:48:53.469 --> 00:48:59.139 called to do. Yeah, so you know. And an example on in 666 00:48:59.300 --> 00:49:04.780 our situation is we're not allowed to cross a police barricade to hand out literature 667 00:49:05.099 --> 00:49:07.260 to women pulling in, even if they roll down their window and reach for 668 00:49:07.340 --> 00:49:12.650 it. So we're using grabbers now and we and a baby from all use 669 00:49:12.690 --> 00:49:15.409 the reach on the top right. And I think a week ago a baby 670 00:49:15.650 --> 00:49:21.369 was literally the mom took the literature from the grabber and and and read the 671 00:49:21.449 --> 00:49:24.719 literature and drove out of that place in chose life for her baby. So 672 00:49:24.880 --> 00:49:31.039 I think whenever possible you certainly want to work within the confines of the law, 673 00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:36.639 but that is not always possible. Yeah, it's not always possible, 674 00:49:36.760 --> 00:49:40.789 but you God gives wisdom, God gives us grace that the chief principle here 675 00:49:40.949 --> 00:49:45.230 is we have to seek to honor God. We have to fear the Lord. 676 00:49:45.230 --> 00:49:47.989 Yeah, and if we would fear God and God give us wisdom in 677 00:49:49.070 --> 00:49:52.750 these situations, and if we have to fall, follow lawsuit. That's part 678 00:49:52.789 --> 00:49:54.539 of the law of the land in this country. The way the constitution is 679 00:49:54.579 --> 00:49:58.579 set up, we can actually sue the government for infringing on our rights. 680 00:49:59.099 --> 00:50:00.820 We're doing that. So those who are listening, please pray for us. 681 00:50:01.059 --> 00:50:05.500 This is law suit. We would a would be victorious in the city would 682 00:50:05.500 --> 00:50:08.929 stop trying to hinder what we're doing. Yeah, but we have to honor 683 00:50:08.969 --> 00:50:14.769 the Lord. But we have to also understand there are sometimes consequences. Sometimes 684 00:50:14.769 --> 00:50:16.369 you're going to get thrown in the fiery furnace or in the Lions Den. 685 00:50:16.610 --> 00:50:22.039 God didn't always rescue you. You know, Jesus, ultimately it's different scenario, 686 00:50:22.039 --> 00:50:25.039 because he was he was destined to die. But the apostles, they 687 00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:29.960 were beaten, they were thrown in prison. Peter was actually later on in 688 00:50:30.159 --> 00:50:32.119 acts, I think was chapter five, where he was thrown in prison. 689 00:50:32.199 --> 00:50:36.269 Yeah, and he suffered. Yeah, and you know what? I think 690 00:50:36.269 --> 00:50:40.710 it's maybe the greatest test of faith that I have ever had in my life 691 00:50:42.230 --> 00:50:45.150 is how much do you trust God? Yeah, do you know what God 692 00:50:45.349 --> 00:50:51.780 says. Are you doing it? And if you're going to bear some harsh 693 00:50:52.019 --> 00:50:58.179 and difficult consequences as a result, will you still obey God? Yeah, 694 00:50:58.340 --> 00:51:05.250 and and if you do, it's because you believe God. You believe he's 695 00:51:05.289 --> 00:51:12.530 there. You REBOI, you believe he eternally rewards those who who obey and 696 00:51:12.690 --> 00:51:16.690 follow and love him and you trust that, no matter what happened, he 697 00:51:17.250 --> 00:51:23.320 is in control and it will all be used for his purposes. Yeah, 698 00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:29.480 yeah, well, I think with that will wrap this thing up. We 699 00:51:29.519 --> 00:51:32.829 appreciate those who listen. We would love if you reached out to us. 700 00:51:32.949 --> 00:51:38.590 You can reach out to me via email and and just suggest maybe some subjects 701 00:51:38.630 --> 00:51:43.510 that we can cover. May some maybe some things per life, ministry issues 702 00:51:43.590 --> 00:51:46.219 or whatever that you have questions about and you want us to talk through. 703 00:51:46.260 --> 00:51:51.139 We'd love to do that. My email is d parks at cities for lifecom. 704 00:51:52.179 --> 00:51:54.980 Vicky is v COSSI ORG at cities for lifecom. You can connect with 705 00:51:55.019 --> 00:51:59.619 us on our website, CHARLOTTE DOT cities for Life Dot Org, and our 706 00:51:59.659 --> 00:52:06.570 sidewalk counseling with training website is www dot sidewalks. The number four Lifecom we'd 707 00:52:06.570 --> 00:52:08.889 love to hear from you. Guys. We appreciate those who listen and hope 708 00:52:08.929 --> 00:52:13.929 that you had a blessed Christmas and we will talk to you in the New 709 00:52:14.010 --> 00:52:27.400 Year. Give me our love for love, give me our loft for gratitude. 710 00:52:30.429 --> 00:52:37.909 I know it will cost me my life. Nothing's too precious. 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