Dec. 16, 2021

Christmas As Springboard For the Message of Life

Christmas As Springboard For the Message of Life

The story of Christmas is on the forefront of everyone’s mind during this season. In this episode, we share how you can use the birth of Christ as a springboard to help men and women at the abortion center see the plan of God and the value of their baby. 

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WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.560 --> 00:00:05.759 I Am Yours, I am yours, I am yours. And Me, 2 00:00:06.160 --> 00:00:11.789 Lord, I am yours, I am yours. I'm welcome to the Gospel 3 00:00:11.830 --> 00:00:17.390 Center pre life podcast, a podcast designed to equip, encourage and challenge you 4 00:00:17.510 --> 00:00:21.660 in pro life ministry and always were the focus on the Gospel. Stay tuned. 5 00:00:23.660 --> 00:00:35.340 I felt show passish, touch your heart. Use Me. Welcome back 6 00:00:35.340 --> 00:00:38.490 to the Gospel Center pro life podcast. Appreciate you, guys, joining us 7 00:00:38.530 --> 00:00:43.530 as always and as always, we hope this episode will be a blessing to 8 00:00:43.570 --> 00:00:48.609 you and we're going to talk about maybe a kind of unique subject. This 9 00:00:48.969 --> 00:00:54.039 should be coming out before Christmas, and so we're going to talk about how 10 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:59.600 we can reach out to these MOMS going into the abortion center and really reach 11 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:03.479 people just in general, maybe not just the MOMS and the dad's, but 12 00:01:03.560 --> 00:01:07.230 maybe just people in our lives, with the pro life message, and use 13 00:01:07.269 --> 00:01:12.310 the Christmas story as a springboard for that message. And some of you guys, 14 00:01:12.430 --> 00:01:17.989 maybe you're probably already doing this. You're already using it because it's in 15 00:01:18.109 --> 00:01:21.579 your mind. You make these connections. I mean, Gosh, Mary, 16 00:01:21.819 --> 00:01:26.379 a young woman who was she was not in sin, she didn't get pregnant 17 00:01:26.659 --> 00:01:33.049 for for her sinful lifestyle. But she was a young mother and what? 18 00:01:33.290 --> 00:01:36.689 Fourteen some people, right, that's what they think. Yeah, just teenager. 19 00:01:36.930 --> 00:01:38.250 And so she's in a, you know what the world would say, 20 00:01:38.290 --> 00:01:44.930 a situation where she she doesn't need to have a baby. Story UN planned 21 00:01:45.010 --> 00:01:49.680 by her. Yeah, unplanned pregnancy. Modern Times, people would have encouraged 22 00:01:49.719 --> 00:01:52.760 her to have an abortion. Sure, many people would have. And so, 23 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:55.480 yeah, we're going to talk about how can you add the abortion center 24 00:01:55.599 --> 00:01:59.920 use that story as a springboard? Maybe it's in a oneonone conversation, maybe 25 00:02:00.040 --> 00:02:02.829 it's in as you're calling out to them going into the abortion center. I 26 00:02:02.870 --> 00:02:06.709 think it's kind of along the lines of what God says, that talking point 27 00:02:06.750 --> 00:02:09.430 that we use what God says, right, and the humanity the baby as 28 00:02:09.469 --> 00:02:14.870 well. Yeah, and may be on the microphones. So we use amplified 29 00:02:14.909 --> 00:02:17.020 sound here and we're able to kind of broadcast more of a like a message, 30 00:02:17.060 --> 00:02:22.219 a general message to everyone who's maybe sitting in the cars and parking lot 31 00:02:22.259 --> 00:02:23.939 or inside the waiting room of the abortion center, whatever it might be. 32 00:02:24.620 --> 00:02:30.449 But in those contexts, how can you use the Christmas story as a springboard 33 00:02:30.050 --> 00:02:35.449 to share the pro life message? It is so rich and filled luke one, 34 00:02:35.770 --> 00:02:38.969 luke one and two, but especially luke one, just really filled with 35 00:02:39.250 --> 00:02:46.439 great things to call out to the women, and I do this with every 36 00:02:46.479 --> 00:02:52.120 holiday. I really look for at every holiday, major holiday, and think, 37 00:02:52.639 --> 00:02:54.120 first of all, I reckoge nice and I call out to them. 38 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:59.270 What do you think you're going to think every single Christmas from this point forward? 39 00:02:59.430 --> 00:03:02.110 What are you going to remember? You'll remember when you were here and 40 00:03:02.349 --> 00:03:06.590 and what choice you meant, and that holiday is always going to be tinged 41 00:03:07.189 --> 00:03:10.389 with either the joy or the despair of that choice that you made. So 42 00:03:10.949 --> 00:03:15.539 the holidays, I think, are an effective thing for us to really focus 43 00:03:15.659 --> 00:03:21.659 on as they're approaching, all the holidays, but Christmas especially. Yeah, 44 00:03:21.780 --> 00:03:24.259 and so you know, we're just a few weeks away. What what are 45 00:03:24.300 --> 00:03:29.930 we now? Three weeks away from from Christmas right now. And so I've 46 00:03:30.050 --> 00:03:36.009 started speaking about Christmas and the messages of Christmas, but it's the holiday where 47 00:03:36.090 --> 00:03:42.439 you are celebrating a baby, yeah, and who started off as an unborn 48 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:46.240 baby, yeah, in the womb of a vulnerable young lady. It just 49 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:54.789 the parallels are perfect. Yeah, Mary's pregnancy is the world's most wellknown unplanned 50 00:03:54.789 --> 00:03:59.669 pregnancy. Correct, right, I'm planned accordand by her and right in the 51 00:03:59.710 --> 00:04:02.189 world, but not planned according to the Lord, and I'll even say that, 52 00:04:02.310 --> 00:04:05.550 by the way, as long as we're hitting that point, that it 53 00:04:05.949 --> 00:04:11.379 was unplanned by her, but not by the Lord, and he definitely had 54 00:04:11.379 --> 00:04:14.979 a plan and a purpose. And I'll say that's true of every human life. 55 00:04:15.259 --> 00:04:18.060 Yeah, not. And and even today, I said now Mary was 56 00:04:18.180 --> 00:04:23.819 pregnant with the son of God. Odd and that's not who you're pregnant with. 57 00:04:23.860 --> 00:04:26.610 I want to let you all know that. Yeah, absolutely, that 58 00:04:26.730 --> 00:04:30.889 only happen once. However, that baby is precious to God and has a 59 00:04:31.170 --> 00:04:34.209 purpose before God. So go on with what you were saying. But but 60 00:04:34.329 --> 00:04:38.639 that's where I'll often start. Yeah, well, Chrismas, that's it is 61 00:04:38.759 --> 00:04:44.600 that the Christmas story, no matter how secular our society becomes and no matter 62 00:04:44.680 --> 00:04:48.279 how secular minded people are, the Christmas story around this season is on the 63 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:54.269 forefront of people's minds. Right, and the songs that are sung, except 64 00:04:54.310 --> 00:04:57.430 for like Holly Jolly Christmas and some of the ones that drive me crazy, 65 00:04:57.509 --> 00:05:01.069 grandma under the rating. Actually, okay, I'm sorry, grandma got randy 66 00:05:01.069 --> 00:05:05.629 about right now that one. That's that's that's a quality class okay, but 67 00:05:05.709 --> 00:05:10.899 rocking around the Christmas tree. I hate it. Okay, Santa Baby, 68 00:05:11.540 --> 00:05:15.660 I'm kind of rabbit trailing here. I hate that. That is probably you 69 00:05:15.699 --> 00:05:17.019 know what's Song I'm talking about, Santa. I don't know that it is 70 00:05:17.100 --> 00:05:21.930 the is. It is quite possibly the worst song ever written outside of the 71 00:05:23.970 --> 00:05:28.050 Beatles Christmas Song. Now, I'm probably stepping on some people's toes there, 72 00:05:28.569 --> 00:05:30.610 but that Beatles Christmas song. I even forget the words of that's. I 73 00:05:30.689 --> 00:05:34.370 can't stand a try even of that one. But okay, going back to 74 00:05:34.449 --> 00:05:39.079 my point, h the Christmas songs will come. We'll call me Manuel. 75 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:43.439 Yeah, come all you faithful. Yeah, silent night, a little town 76 00:05:43.519 --> 00:05:46.360 of n a little too away, in a manger. These are, or 77 00:05:46.480 --> 00:05:49.269 you know was. As long as we're on Christmas songs, this one makes 78 00:05:49.350 --> 00:05:54.310 me cry every time. Mary, did you know that's? You know that 79 00:05:54.430 --> 00:05:56.910 one? Yeah, did you know that, your baby boy? I mean 80 00:05:57.509 --> 00:06:00.069 it brings tear smies just thinking of it, because Mary did you know? 81 00:06:00.269 --> 00:06:03.029 Well, I don't know how much she knew. She treasured it in her 82 00:06:03.069 --> 00:06:06.019 heart, but she sure didn't know the whole story, I'm sure. Yeah, 83 00:06:06.420 --> 00:06:11.980 but that's true again, of every mom we face. You don't know. 84 00:06:12.180 --> 00:06:15.579 You don't know the whole story, yeah, of what's going to happen 85 00:06:15.660 --> 00:06:17.420 with that baby and what God has planned for that baby. But Anyway, 86 00:06:17.420 --> 00:06:21.769 okay, Beck, because the point is that this Christmas story, this unplanned 87 00:06:21.769 --> 00:06:25.569 pregnancy story, which, yeah, at the core of the Christmas story. 88 00:06:25.649 --> 00:06:30.290 That's what it is. This this unplanned pregnancy. If a young woman and 89 00:06:30.449 --> 00:06:35.639 of course, this child that was conceived and born in a very difficult situation 90 00:06:36.160 --> 00:06:41.240 becomes a redeemer of the world, that story is on the forefront of people's 91 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:45.560 minds. Their women are driving to the abortion center around this season, going 92 00:06:45.759 --> 00:06:50.029 past manger scenes, yeah, going path we're with the radio own and hearing 93 00:06:50.230 --> 00:06:56.709 these songs of Jesus and the Christmas story, and so I think we would 94 00:06:56.709 --> 00:07:00.670 be fools not to, for lack of a better term, capitalize on that, 95 00:07:00.990 --> 00:07:02.980 yeah, to springboard off of that, because it's on the forefront of 96 00:07:03.060 --> 00:07:08.860 their minds and the fact is they're going to remember this season if they go 97 00:07:09.019 --> 00:07:14.620 through with an abortion. They're going to remember what happened in December around Chris 98 00:07:14.740 --> 00:07:18.089 Dismas two thousand and twenty one. And you know, I know women that 99 00:07:18.209 --> 00:07:23.689 have had abortions in the past. Years and years and years ago. They 100 00:07:23.850 --> 00:07:28.290 remember those abortions, but especially when they can really put a marker in time. 101 00:07:28.410 --> 00:07:31.160 That was around Christmas, and just looking back to that, I mean 102 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:34.040 that's that's a reality. And so, you know, I think we'd be 103 00:07:34.079 --> 00:07:38.680 fools not to capitalize on that, springboard off of that, yeah, and 104 00:07:39.160 --> 00:07:43.319 to encourage these women to help save them from the destruction that abortion brings, 105 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:47.829 to step out boldly, to use Mary as an example of a young woman 106 00:07:47.870 --> 00:07:53.949 who was scared, pregnant in a world that was really against her and not 107 00:07:54.230 --> 00:07:59.500 really very helpful to her. But yet she stood firm and stood strong. 108 00:07:59.540 --> 00:08:03.339 Yeah, because she did, in the sight of God, what was the 109 00:08:03.420 --> 00:08:05.379 right thing to do. And so springboard off that encourage these women to do 110 00:08:05.500 --> 00:08:09.980 the same, I think is a very powerful way to help them to it 111 00:08:09.180 --> 00:08:13.529 is. That's less number one for all of you listening. Don't neglect the 112 00:08:13.610 --> 00:08:18.970 the this gift of the Christmas story. Yeah, to be able to talk 113 00:08:18.009 --> 00:08:22.170 to the women, I go all the way back to when I'm starting to 114 00:08:22.250 --> 00:08:26.089 talk about the Christmas story with without at the abortion center. I go back 115 00:08:26.199 --> 00:08:31.519 to Elizabeth, who in Luke One Elizabeth is Mary's cousin. She and her 116 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:37.000 husband, Sechariah, cannot have any children. She's barren. It great disgrace 117 00:08:37.120 --> 00:08:41.669 and sorrow in in her eyes. And and you know, the angel comes 118 00:08:41.710 --> 00:08:46.990 to John and and or, I'm sorry, comes to Zechariah and says your 119 00:08:48.149 --> 00:08:52.029 wife is going to bear a child and and he's going to be John The 120 00:08:52.149 --> 00:08:58.700 baptist. Yeah, but but like some of the things that he is told, 121 00:08:58.179 --> 00:09:05.860 that Zachariah is told of what, what is going to happen with this 122 00:09:05.059 --> 00:09:13.889 baby? One of them that I honestly don't recall ever really grasping the magnitude 123 00:09:13.889 --> 00:09:18.330 of what this means is in verse fifteen when he says, for he will 124 00:09:18.370 --> 00:09:20.409 be great in the side of the Lord, he would drink no wine or 125 00:09:20.450 --> 00:09:24.519 liquor. He's talking now about baby liquor. When version of the scriptures that 126 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:28.720 head. I'm sorry, I'm probably an ASB. Okay, he will drink 127 00:09:28.799 --> 00:09:33.080 no wine or liquor and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit while yet 128 00:09:33.759 --> 00:09:39.029 in his mother's womb. Okay, that struck me like a ton of rocks. 129 00:09:39.029 --> 00:09:41.190 Yeah, to today. I think I read it this morning and I 130 00:09:41.309 --> 00:09:46.629 used it when I was speaking with the women today, because, I mean, 131 00:09:46.909 --> 00:09:54.500 this tells you unequivocally, while yet unborn, the Holy Spirit can enter 132 00:09:56.460 --> 00:10:00.700 a child, a baby in the womb. Yeah, and we're killing these 133 00:10:00.779 --> 00:10:05.100 babies. Yeah. So to me this is one of the first powerful verses. 134 00:10:05.139 --> 00:10:09.889 Yeah, that that I would go to, that an unborn baby can 135 00:10:09.970 --> 00:10:15.129 be filled with the Holy Spirit. And then the next verse is where are 136 00:10:15.129 --> 00:10:18.009 a couple verses later, in verse Seventeen, where John is going to be 137 00:10:18.610 --> 00:10:22.799 of the forerunner, of the Messiah, and he's come, going to come 138 00:10:22.840 --> 00:10:28.679 in the spirit of Elijah and he's going to turn people back to the Lord. 139 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:33.159 But then also, it says in verse Seventeen, to turn the hearts 140 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:39.509 of the father's back to the children and the disobedient to the attitude of the 141 00:10:39.549 --> 00:10:45.190 righteous. Yeah. So again the where are the hearts of the fathers as 142 00:10:45.230 --> 00:10:48.190 you're standing in front of an abortion center? Yeah, well, they're certainly 143 00:10:48.950 --> 00:10:54.899 often time's not for their children there, toward themselves. Yeah. Yeah, 144 00:10:54.419 --> 00:11:01.059 so I citing that verse and talking about the purpose, one of the purposes 145 00:11:01.179 --> 00:11:05.289 of John, the unborn baby. He's already being told, as father's being 146 00:11:05.409 --> 00:11:09.690 told, while he's yet unborn, this is his purpose. He already has 147 00:11:09.730 --> 00:11:16.970 been assigned a purpose by God. Yeah, another really important point. Yeah, 148 00:11:16.169 --> 00:11:20.080 because, like you're pointing out, in the Christmas story we certainly have 149 00:11:20.679 --> 00:11:26.279 the the preborn baby Jesus, but we also have preborn baby John in the 150 00:11:26.320 --> 00:11:31.950 womb, this forerunner of Jesus. This is really if you want to look 151 00:11:31.950 --> 00:11:35.909 at the scripture with the scripture has to say a about unborn children, the 152 00:11:35.950 --> 00:11:39.470 Christmas story is the best place to look. I think. I mean all 153 00:11:39.549 --> 00:11:43.909 through the Bible, you see God gives value to human beings and and all 154 00:11:43.950 --> 00:11:46.500 of that. But even in that Luke passage, I know we pointed out 155 00:11:46.580 --> 00:11:52.500 this before, that were that's used for infant is breathos right, and it's 156 00:11:52.539 --> 00:11:58.779 the same word that use later on in Luke to apply to like infants outside 157 00:11:58.820 --> 00:12:01.210 the womb or even little children. So it's the same word. said the 158 00:12:01.250 --> 00:12:07.809 unborn baby John, use the baby Jesus born breakfast. Yeah, both means 159 00:12:09.289 --> 00:12:13.009 baby. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So there's there's no distinction that God 160 00:12:13.169 --> 00:12:16.720 gives that God doesn't like we do. I say we as a society. 161 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:22.200 We apply the term fetus to a preborn child and infant to a child that's 162 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:26.960 been born. Right in the scriptures, in the New Testament, there's an 163 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:31.909 equivalent. It's equivalent term, right, breafos, right, and so we 164 00:12:31.950 --> 00:12:33.509 see right there, if we get into the language of it, that's not 165 00:12:33.750 --> 00:12:37.470 necessarily something and I think you could in a oneone conversation with a woman going 166 00:12:37.549 --> 00:12:39.950 in. You could lay that truth out for her and I would encourage you, 167 00:12:39.950 --> 00:12:43.110 guys, if you're kind of puzzled by what I'm even talking about, 168 00:12:43.149 --> 00:12:48.860 dig into the Greek that is used in the gospel of Luke in particular, 169 00:12:48.220 --> 00:12:54.379 and the word that the Greek words that are used to talk about a baby 170 00:12:54.460 --> 00:12:56.940 inside the womb. Again, it's the same Greek word that's used for a 171 00:12:56.980 --> 00:13:00.169 baby outside the whom. Again you, I think you could break it down 172 00:13:00.330 --> 00:13:01.570 and share that if you got in depth with a mom going in to the 173 00:13:01.570 --> 00:13:05.169 abortion center and you can share that. I think it could be a powerful 174 00:13:05.169 --> 00:13:07.210 truth. Yeah, but more than anything, the most powerful truth of this 175 00:13:07.250 --> 00:13:13.759 is the redemption that God brought through that unplanned pregnancy. And I'll say that 176 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:16.600 often times Mary had an unplanned I do use air quotes because it was not 177 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:20.000 unplanned according to God. It's a matter of fact. There are no unplanned 178 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:24.159 pregnancies according to God. Right, he knows the infant beginny. Yeah, 179 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:28.830 but according to US and according to our thinking, that was unplanned. And 180 00:13:28.909 --> 00:13:33.190 yet God brought redemption out of that situation. And so many of these women 181 00:13:33.309 --> 00:13:37.110 going into the abortion center they're scared and they're thinking, how could any good 182 00:13:37.190 --> 00:13:39.990 come out of this situation? God brought good out of that situation, the 183 00:13:41.110 --> 00:13:45.059 greatest good ever. The son of God came to this earth, lived a 184 00:13:45.100 --> 00:13:48.379 sinless life, ultimately healed the sick and raise the dead, died for the 185 00:13:48.460 --> 00:13:50.820 sins of the world and then was rose from the grave. Now, of 186 00:13:50.899 --> 00:13:54.980 course their baby is not going to do those things because their baby's not the 187 00:13:54.019 --> 00:14:00.370 son of God. But that that awesome redemptive story came out of this unplanned 188 00:14:00.409 --> 00:14:05.730 pregnancy. If God could do that, he could do in your life a 189 00:14:05.889 --> 00:14:09.129 similar thing. He could bring redemption that child. We say to the MOMS, 190 00:14:09.129 --> 00:14:13.360 oftentimes that child could really open your eyes to the fact that there's something 191 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:16.200 more than what you're living for. I know that's what happened in my life 192 00:14:16.200 --> 00:14:20.559 as a father, seventeen years old when our daughter was born, and so 193 00:14:20.600 --> 00:14:24.200 I'll say that to the men. That was an unplanned pregnancy that God used 194 00:14:24.389 --> 00:14:26.909 open my eyes to the reality of there were something more the world I was 195 00:14:26.950 --> 00:14:31.029 living for and so I think springboarding off the Christmas story in that way is 196 00:14:31.070 --> 00:14:35.230 a very powerful way to help something's already on the forefront of their mind, 197 00:14:35.269 --> 00:14:41.100 the Christmas story, Christmas season and all that stuff, and and to kind 198 00:14:41.139 --> 00:14:45.700 of roll with it and share this story has application to your life right now, 199 00:14:45.860 --> 00:14:48.419 right, and looks. So look at your story. I know when 200 00:14:48.460 --> 00:14:54.529 you probably first heard that your wife was pregnant, and probably part of the 201 00:14:54.929 --> 00:14:58.409 overwhelming emotion that filled you was fear. Yeah, right, yeah, and 202 00:14:58.529 --> 00:15:01.570 of course she was not my wife at that time. No, that's right. 203 00:15:01.929 --> 00:15:05.970 I've shared my story before. So you guys hopefully no, but yeah, 204 00:15:05.970 --> 00:15:09.600 we were high school sweethearts. She was fifteen, I was seventeen when 205 00:15:09.600 --> 00:15:13.440 she got pregnant, and that's young. That, that's young. That's scary. 206 00:15:13.519 --> 00:15:16.519 So so I'm sure you were filled with terror, probably terror. My 207 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:20.919 life is over, right, and you've shared that before. Well, again, 208 00:15:20.039 --> 00:15:26.070 here's another, I think, really critical parallel between Mary and as she 209 00:15:26.309 --> 00:15:30.350 as the angels telling her, guess what, you're going to have the sun, 210 00:15:30.389 --> 00:15:31.909 a God your we're I'm gonna be you know, you're going to be 211 00:15:33.110 --> 00:15:37.659 impregnated and by the spirit of God. And Yeah, anyway, the angel 212 00:15:37.779 --> 00:15:43.059 says to her do not be afraid. Yeah, so the angel wouldn't have 213 00:15:43.100 --> 00:15:48.259 needed to say that if Mary had been, you know, boldly saying confidently, 214 00:15:48.659 --> 00:15:52.970 well, yeah, I can do this, no problem. That's probably 215 00:15:52.049 --> 00:15:56.889 not. Her emotion must have been one of fear. Naturally, that is 216 00:15:56.970 --> 00:16:00.649 just what any fifteen year old, fourteenyear old, would experience when they're told 217 00:16:02.009 --> 00:16:06.039 that you're about to have a baby. That and and she's she's in shock, 218 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:10.480 she's obviously scared. And the angel in the Christmas story, the Angel 219 00:16:10.639 --> 00:16:12.879 Comes, I. I don't know if it's Gabriel each time, but four 220 00:16:12.960 --> 00:16:18.509 different times the angel comes to four different groups or people, and the word 221 00:16:18.710 --> 00:16:23.990 every time that the angel says is do not be afraid, or fear not. 222 00:16:25.710 --> 00:16:29.710 And you think about MOMS coming to an abortion center. Without a doubt, 223 00:16:30.029 --> 00:16:38.940 fear is fueling their decisions and fear muddies your rational mind and and takes 224 00:16:40.139 --> 00:16:44.779 over so that you make stupid choices. Yeah, so the angel points out 225 00:16:44.820 --> 00:16:47.929 to marry, as I think we need to point out to these MOMS, 226 00:16:48.610 --> 00:16:52.210 don't let fear be what rules you. Yeah, let me tell you what 227 00:16:52.450 --> 00:16:56.610 is going to happen. What that there is a planet and a purpose for 228 00:16:56.730 --> 00:17:03.240 this incredible child. Yeah, and God is with you. In fact, 229 00:17:03.279 --> 00:17:06.880 that's what Emmanuel means, is God is with us. And Mary is told 230 00:17:06.920 --> 00:17:11.599 that she has found favor with God. And but but the angel lays out 231 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:15.589 that there is a purpose and I think in general terms we can lay out 232 00:17:15.869 --> 00:17:18.750 to these women don't be afraid, don't let fear rule you right now. 233 00:17:19.230 --> 00:17:25.069 And there is an unbelievable purpose her, for this child in your well, 234 00:17:25.230 --> 00:17:29.069 we don't know what it is, but you'll never know what it is if 235 00:17:29.109 --> 00:17:33.859 you take that child's life today. Yeah, yeah, talking about Mary's fear. 236 00:17:34.460 --> 00:17:38.099 Yeah, she had, I mean not just because she was going to 237 00:17:38.099 --> 00:17:41.700 be a young woman that was pregnant, but she had a lot to be 238 00:17:41.819 --> 00:17:45.049 afraid of in her day and age, right. I mean you think people 239 00:17:45.049 --> 00:17:48.089 are marginalized now who are pregnant outside of marriage, in those days, if 240 00:17:48.130 --> 00:17:52.130 you're pregnant outside of marriage, not only could you be marginalized and rejected by 241 00:17:52.210 --> 00:17:56.529 your community, but you could also be stone to death, right, and 242 00:17:56.809 --> 00:18:00.599 she definitely was in danger that because she's not married to Joseph, but she 243 00:18:00.920 --> 00:18:06.960 is engaged to him and in that time period and engagement was the same in 244 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:11.400 terms of the commitment yeah, and so, in the eyes of the people, 245 00:18:12.309 --> 00:18:17.910 she would have committed adultery. Yeah, against Joseph and and yeah, 246 00:18:17.990 --> 00:18:22.190 the penalty was her adopteus. She Sven stoned to death, been stone today. 247 00:18:22.630 --> 00:18:26.420 Beyond that, of course, she had the rejection of society. Like 248 00:18:26.539 --> 00:18:30.460 you didn't get pregnant outside of marriage in those days. Right, this is 249 00:18:30.539 --> 00:18:34.539 not a common thing. Right, and so she had that. She had 250 00:18:36.059 --> 00:18:41.890 obviously she had to try to explain this situation. However, by God's grace 251 00:18:41.970 --> 00:18:47.329 and mercy, the Lord sent an angel to explain that situation to the most 252 00:18:47.329 --> 00:18:51.369 important person in the scenario, which was Joseph. And he was a righteous 253 00:18:51.410 --> 00:18:55.170 man and he did the right thing, which, unfortunately, is not the 254 00:18:55.250 --> 00:18:57.720 case for many of the the men that get these women pregnant of the abortion 255 00:18:57.799 --> 00:19:03.039 centers are not righteous. Right, and this is where the parallel does yeah, 256 00:19:03.079 --> 00:19:06.920 it doesn't act. Obviously she these are not righteous women that are going 257 00:19:06.960 --> 00:19:08.759 to kill their baby and they're not righteous men. Yeah, but a lot 258 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:14.509 of the emotions that they're experiencing, definitely, I think you can be paid. 259 00:19:14.549 --> 00:19:18.069 Absolutely, yeah, and in God's a redeemer. Yeah, I think 260 00:19:18.069 --> 00:19:21.670 we always need to bring the story back around the Christmas store back around to 261 00:19:21.750 --> 00:19:26.660 the point that God's a redeemer and God can redeem your situation if you trust 262 00:19:26.740 --> 00:19:30.299 in him. Yeah, you know, I think talking about you know, 263 00:19:30.420 --> 00:19:33.380 talking about families, some of the things I'll often say is you're going to 264 00:19:33.420 --> 00:19:37.859 be around the Christmas tree with your family? Are you going to be around 265 00:19:37.859 --> 00:19:44.289 the Christmas table, sharing with your family but hiding this secret right that you're 266 00:19:44.329 --> 00:19:47.730 carrying with you? Yeah, now, on the flip side of that, 267 00:19:47.769 --> 00:19:49.809 if you continue this pregnancy, obviously there's going to be you're gonna have to 268 00:19:49.890 --> 00:19:53.319 share that you're pregnant. That's going to come out. But how much more, 269 00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:56.599 if you trust the Lord and do what he says and what honors him, 270 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:03.480 will he help bring peace in the midst of that situation in this season? 271 00:20:03.559 --> 00:20:06.720 Then, if you were to take matters in your own hands and have 272 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:10.710 to explain to your family, because it may come out, yeah, that 273 00:20:10.990 --> 00:20:14.589 you've had an abortion, like man that's in again around this season. How 274 00:20:14.829 --> 00:20:19.549 how, how dark and how devastating is that to a young lady? Yeah, 275 00:20:21.190 --> 00:20:22.740 I love that you use that word peace. That was one of the 276 00:20:22.900 --> 00:20:30.539 things I talked about today because you know, you can very legitimately make the 277 00:20:30.660 --> 00:20:33.740 point to the women at an abortion center that they are not feeling peace. 278 00:20:34.059 --> 00:20:38.450 I guarantee they're not. And yet here we are in a season that celebrates 279 00:20:38.529 --> 00:20:42.890 peace on earth. Well, you can't have peace when you are in direct 280 00:20:42.970 --> 00:20:48.690 rebellion against God. But that peace is available, yeah, when you turn 281 00:20:48.809 --> 00:20:52.400 back to him and turn to him. Yeah, I think of the I 282 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:55.799 share often times. It's from the gospel of Luke, the proclamation of the 283 00:20:55.880 --> 00:20:59.640 angels when they come in the field there they know. They were shepherds watching 284 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:02.200 over their flocks by night. We know the story right. And then the 285 00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:07.509 angel comes, or the angels come in appear and say peace on Earth, 286 00:21:07.630 --> 00:21:10.829 goodwill toward men, like God wants to bring peace. God has a good 287 00:21:11.069 --> 00:21:14.589 will, and I will share this with the women and with the men, 288 00:21:15.069 --> 00:21:18.619 that you think that right now God doesn't know what he's doing because you're pregnant. 289 00:21:18.099 --> 00:21:21.539 Like God, why did you allow this? Yeah, but you have 290 00:21:21.660 --> 00:21:25.940 to trust that God has a good will towards you. God ultimately has a 291 00:21:25.980 --> 00:21:27.859 good will toward all of you, manity. He wants good for us, 292 00:21:29.180 --> 00:21:33.609 even in the midst of our sin. That's what Jesus came to redeem lost 293 00:21:33.690 --> 00:21:37.450 human beings. So let's put our trust in God's good will toward man, 294 00:21:37.569 --> 00:21:41.849 peace on earth, good will toward men. Let's put our trust in him 295 00:21:41.849 --> 00:21:45.690 rather than in things like abortion and which don't bring peace and don't have a 296 00:21:45.730 --> 00:21:49.599 good will. All the will that Plant parenthood or the abortion industry has toward 297 00:21:49.640 --> 00:21:53.400 these women and toward these babies is a dollar sign right. They don't have 298 00:21:53.480 --> 00:21:57.680 a good desire, they are ultimately trying to make money, but God does 299 00:21:57.759 --> 00:22:02.269 have a good will toward them. So kind of contrasting that and helping them 300 00:22:02.349 --> 00:22:06.470 to see through the Christmas story, God has their best in mind, even 301 00:22:06.470 --> 00:22:10.430 in the midst of a very difficult situation, and I love how you kind 302 00:22:10.430 --> 00:22:15.740 of give this summary of the Christmas story and then help them to your painting 303 00:22:15.779 --> 00:22:18.420 a vision for them. I think in a lot of a lot of how 304 00:22:18.579 --> 00:22:22.859 you and I think that's true of your nature in general, and what I 305 00:22:22.140 --> 00:22:26.859 often will do is go back to like some of the specifics that I see 306 00:22:26.740 --> 00:22:30.930 a different approach. I love your vision painting. I think it's really really 307 00:22:32.009 --> 00:22:37.130 important and beautiful. But one of the things again, that that I think 308 00:22:37.329 --> 00:22:45.680 is really fascinating in the story about Elizabeth and Mary and they as they're bearing 309 00:22:45.240 --> 00:22:48.920 these unborn children that are going to change the world, Baby John and and 310 00:22:49.240 --> 00:22:56.680 baby Jesus. And Mary goes to visit Elizabeth for I think three months. 311 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.630 She stays with her cousin and it says that when, when Elizabeth, when 312 00:23:00.750 --> 00:23:07.309 Mary enters the room, Elizabeth filled with the Holy Spirit. In Verse Forty 313 00:23:07.390 --> 00:23:11.109 Four says for behold, when the sound of your reading reached my ears, 314 00:23:11.230 --> 00:23:15.059 the baby leaped in my womb for joy. I will talk about that a 315 00:23:15.220 --> 00:23:18.740 lot again because I'm thinking about one of our key talking points, of our 316 00:23:18.819 --> 00:23:25.059 three talking points, is humanity of the baby, and here's a unborn baby 317 00:23:25.579 --> 00:23:30.089 that's described as leaping for joy. Yeah, in the womb. So it 318 00:23:30.250 --> 00:23:37.289 shows showing the humanity of that unborn child. I think that's amazing. But 319 00:23:37.410 --> 00:23:41.680 another thing that I will say and that I think is expressed in this verse 320 00:23:42.359 --> 00:23:48.759 is really the the first one to greet Jesus was an unborn baby, this 321 00:23:48.960 --> 00:23:55.750 unborn baby greeting, leaping for joy, the unborn baby Jesus, knowing the 322 00:23:55.829 --> 00:24:00.430 presence of the unborn baby Jesus. So it's the unborn meeting the or died. 323 00:24:00.549 --> 00:24:03.789 Mean they didn't, I guess, technically meet. There was a womb 324 00:24:03.869 --> 00:24:06.990 between them the skin, but, but, but, but, you get 325 00:24:07.069 --> 00:24:10.460 my pointully, some kind of connection going on there. There was a connection 326 00:24:10.579 --> 00:24:14.980 that that baby knew that this was his Lord coming in into the room and 327 00:24:15.460 --> 00:24:18.579 thereby, according to the scripture, humanizing the baby in the womb is not 328 00:24:18.740 --> 00:24:22.019 just a blob of tissue or clumb of sales, but a human being that's 329 00:24:22.299 --> 00:24:26.250 capable of, like you said, being full of the Holy Spirit. Yeah, 330 00:24:26.329 --> 00:24:30.369 capable of responding to a spiritual experience here with the son of God being 331 00:24:30.410 --> 00:24:33.490 in the same room. Yeah, and a baby leaping in the womb. 332 00:24:34.369 --> 00:24:38.039 One of the prayers that we often pray in love life, as we're doing 333 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:41.119 our when our journeys with pastors, bringing them out to the abortion center, 334 00:24:41.200 --> 00:24:44.559 having them pray in front of the abortion center, or we're bringing our prayer 335 00:24:44.640 --> 00:24:48.599 groups out, is we pray specifically, just like John Leapt in Elizabeth's womb, 336 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.470 we pray that those babies would leap in their mother's womb. And we've 337 00:24:52.470 --> 00:24:56.630 actually had a story not too long ago, is couple of months ago, 338 00:24:56.990 --> 00:25:00.069 where a young lady was inside the abortion center and she was on the the 339 00:25:00.309 --> 00:25:03.630 table, not the operating table, but she was on the table get an 340 00:25:03.630 --> 00:25:06.670 ultra sound and if you remember the story, but she felt her baby. 341 00:25:06.670 --> 00:25:08.900 I think she was eighteen weeks or something. He was still within the range 342 00:25:08.940 --> 00:25:12.059 of being able to have the abortion and she felt her baby. That was 343 00:25:12.180 --> 00:25:17.339 the first, first time. Yeah, she felt her baby was inside the 344 00:25:17.420 --> 00:25:22.329 womb, inside of the abortion center, right, and she came out ended, 345 00:25:22.369 --> 00:25:25.210 up coming on board the MOBILTRA sound unit, chose life. Yeah, 346 00:25:25.329 --> 00:25:26.730 and so that was an answer to prayer and it's kind of like this is 347 00:25:26.809 --> 00:25:30.170 what we pray about. Yeah, and this is that again, that Christmas 348 00:25:30.210 --> 00:25:33.849 story, and here it comes to life in a sense, right in front 349 00:25:33.849 --> 00:25:36.640 of us. Yeah, and it's amazing just how God uses that, that 350 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.839 that prayer out of that story. Yeah, it's so beautiful. And and 351 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:45.319 that picture of the unborn baby John Leaping in the womb for joy as the 352 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:49.910 unborn baby Jesus enters the room with his you know, inside of his mother 353 00:25:49.990 --> 00:25:56.869 Mary, I think points to a very basic, important truth that God is 354 00:25:56.069 --> 00:26:00.269 pointing out the value of the unborn. I mean at its most basic level. 355 00:26:00.309 --> 00:26:04.500 If you think about the Christmas story, Jesus could have come to earth 356 00:26:04.859 --> 00:26:07.980 in any form, didn't even need to be human. But but let's say 357 00:26:08.099 --> 00:26:11.700 he'd God, for very good reason, sends him as a human being. 358 00:26:12.380 --> 00:26:15.619 He didn't need to come as an unborn yeah, child, he could have 359 00:26:15.700 --> 00:26:18.650 comment, but I don't know, right at birth, if that was the 360 00:26:18.730 --> 00:26:22.690 point at which humanity matters. He could have come as a thirty year old 361 00:26:22.690 --> 00:26:26.930 or even as a twenty year old and he could have had all those more 362 00:26:26.009 --> 00:26:32.450 years of maybe ministry if he comes fully formed and God has already fed into 363 00:26:32.450 --> 00:26:37.160 him in his growing up period. But he comes as an unborn baby. 364 00:26:37.200 --> 00:26:41.279 Yeah, and I think that is an amazing point. And to point that 365 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:48.190 out to women. God, our creator, our Savior, the savior of 366 00:26:48.269 --> 00:26:52.230 the world, came as an unborn baby. What does that say about God's 367 00:26:52.869 --> 00:26:59.470 valuing of the unborn? Yeah, and of when life begins? Yeah, 368 00:26:59.710 --> 00:27:03.420 yeah. I won't dig too deep in to this because it's not your point, 369 00:27:03.660 --> 00:27:07.180 but I will say that Jesus did have to come as a human being. 370 00:27:07.220 --> 00:27:10.940 MMM. But I will agree with your point that he could have come 371 00:27:11.140 --> 00:27:15.579 as a full grown human being, could have come as a right toddler or 372 00:27:15.660 --> 00:27:18.930 whatever. Yeah, but to save human beings he had to come as a 373 00:27:19.009 --> 00:27:25.329 human being and we see that in the Christmas story and that's that's the amazing 374 00:27:25.490 --> 00:27:32.440 reality, and that's why I love the Christmas songs that talk about Jesus again. 375 00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:34.079 Oh come, oh come, Emmanuel. I mean, guys, I 376 00:27:34.160 --> 00:27:38.759 Woan't encourage you through this seasons. Actually listen to the songs. Yeah, 377 00:27:40.440 --> 00:27:47.109 because there's so much depth to them. Joy to the world. Listen to 378 00:27:47.150 --> 00:27:52.910 the words of that song. He came to make his blessings known far as 379 00:27:52.990 --> 00:27:56.150 the curses found. It's talking about the curse of sin and Jesus coming to 380 00:27:56.349 --> 00:28:00.019 make his blessings on my word. In that right, I think I'm learning. 381 00:28:00.099 --> 00:28:03.980 I kind of you know, as we are seeing those verses. Yeah, 382 00:28:03.980 --> 00:28:07.339 which is kind of sad. We only sing the main important we first, 383 00:28:07.579 --> 00:28:11.059 like your first and forth or whatever. Yeah, but listen to the 384 00:28:11.140 --> 00:28:15.289 songs as as they're being play I'll tell you also, maybe this is for 385 00:28:15.369 --> 00:28:18.009 you guys to if you haven't heard this song before, it's a powerful song 386 00:28:18.089 --> 00:28:23.970 and it's kind of a modern song, though it's from casting crowns and Gosh, 387 00:28:25.089 --> 00:28:27.839 what's the name of the song? I'm want to look up the name 388 00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.720 of the song, but it is so powerful because they talked about in that 389 00:28:30.799 --> 00:28:37.799 particular song about how we've embraced the philosophy of Save the trees and kill the 390 00:28:37.799 --> 00:28:42.509 children. You're that song. If I do, I'm blanking on it. 391 00:28:42.910 --> 00:28:45.869 Yeah, it's good. I'M gonna before we're done with this episode, I'm 392 00:28:45.910 --> 00:28:48.750 going to share that. That's a powerful song. Yeah, but I'm just 393 00:28:48.910 --> 00:28:52.990 want to encourage you guys, as you're kind of going through the Christmas season. 394 00:28:53.230 --> 00:28:56.579 Don't let these, the power of these songs and the depth that's in 395 00:28:56.660 --> 00:29:00.779 these songs, in the depth of the reality of what took place when Jesus 396 00:29:00.859 --> 00:29:04.500 came into this world, slip through your fingers and get lost in all the 397 00:29:04.980 --> 00:29:11.170 you know, Santa Claus and gingerbread and sprawls, the snow man and all 398 00:29:11.329 --> 00:29:15.329 that stuff, and Miss Jesus in the midst of it. Certainly we don't 399 00:29:15.329 --> 00:29:18.849 want these women to Miss Jesus, but let us also not Miss Jesus. 400 00:29:18.849 --> 00:29:21.690 And the name of the song. I just looked it up, okay, 401 00:29:21.769 --> 00:29:23.680 as I was, yeah, talking. It's called why you were while you 402 00:29:23.720 --> 00:29:26.480 were sleeping. Oh, it's so powerful. You should have let's do it 403 00:29:26.519 --> 00:29:30.799 when we leave today from recording this. Why should listen to it, while 404 00:29:30.960 --> 00:29:33.240 I'll use sleep, while you were sleepy. Yes, it's so good, 405 00:29:33.359 --> 00:29:37.240 so powerful. Yeah, but yeah, these songs again, these songs are 406 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:41.269 on the forefront of these women's minds to they're listening to them, probably has 407 00:29:41.309 --> 00:29:45.029 they're going to the abortions and they're probably not thinking of the true meaning of 408 00:29:45.109 --> 00:29:48.829 those words. And if you point them out, you know, listen to 409 00:29:48.990 --> 00:29:55.579 this phrase from this song and then you read these verses from especially Luke. 410 00:29:56.380 --> 00:30:00.940 I just happen to really loved Luke. But pointing out God's love of the 411 00:30:00.019 --> 00:30:03.339 unborn, which is so clear. Yeah, and yeah, in the Christmas 412 00:30:03.380 --> 00:30:07.410 story, I think it it can make a powerful impact on these women. 413 00:30:07.650 --> 00:30:12.009 Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, another thing I want to mention that I thought 414 00:30:12.130 --> 00:30:15.009 was pretty cool we've actually done in the past and we're actually going to wrap 415 00:30:15.049 --> 00:30:19.809 up here in just a minute. Okay, is Christmas carely? Yeah, 416 00:30:19.930 --> 00:30:23.519 it's kind of weird, you think, singing Christmas songs in front of the 417 00:30:23.559 --> 00:30:29.359 abortion center, and not every scenario lends itself to that. I don't think 418 00:30:29.400 --> 00:30:32.599 out here at Latrobe is probably the best place to do it with these crazy 419 00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:34.480 pro abortion people, but I know some of our team in New York. 420 00:30:36.190 --> 00:30:40.069 I'd seen some things where they were doing Christmas carol singing Christmas carols in front 421 00:30:40.069 --> 00:30:41.069 of the abortion center. Yeah, and I think we have to do it, 422 00:30:41.150 --> 00:30:45.990 obviously with with a somberness, you know, a seriousness there, right, 423 00:30:45.390 --> 00:30:49.019 but I do think maybe you have the ability to play Christmas songs on 424 00:30:49.180 --> 00:30:52.420 some kind of amplified sound as long as it doesn't drowned out your voices and 425 00:30:52.940 --> 00:30:59.259 you can still be heard playing some of these Christmas songs over a sound system. 426 00:30:59.380 --> 00:31:03.650 Singing Christmas carols, could really, really awaken the conscience of some of 427 00:31:03.650 --> 00:31:08.170 these women going into the abortion center because these songs in this Christmas story is 428 00:31:08.250 --> 00:31:12.329 so powerful, it's so redemptive, and so will encourage you, guys. 429 00:31:14.369 --> 00:31:17.690 I don't want to I don't want to encourage you to manipulate. We're not 430 00:31:17.730 --> 00:31:22.359 talking about manipulation. We're talking about springboarding off of this reality that's on the 431 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.759 forefront of people's minds to help speak the truth and save lives. Well, 432 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.839 we're Gospel centered pro life ministry and that's what this podcast is all about, 433 00:31:30.839 --> 00:31:34.150 as using the Gospel. And this is the Gospel, this is this is 434 00:31:34.390 --> 00:31:38.509 the story of the birth of Our Lord and save here and the faith of 435 00:31:38.789 --> 00:31:45.509 some really wonderful characters, and I think we we need to to use these 436 00:31:45.630 --> 00:31:52.619 powerful verses to help women to really think about the parallel between their own situation 437 00:31:52.019 --> 00:31:57.500 and their own baby and God's plan and purpose. Yeah, and then Mary 438 00:31:57.779 --> 00:32:04.609 and her baby and his glorious plan and purpose. Yeah, Amen. Amen. 439 00:32:05.210 --> 00:32:07.329 Well, guys, we appreciate you listening and we'd appreciate, as always, 440 00:32:07.369 --> 00:32:12.250 if you would share this podcast episode with others. Also, we'd appreciate 441 00:32:12.329 --> 00:32:15.529 if you'd reach out to us let us know if you have suggestions for future 442 00:32:15.529 --> 00:32:17.160 podcast that we can do. Maybe you have a word of encouragement, maybe 443 00:32:17.160 --> 00:32:21.480 you were blessed by one of the episodes, maybe you're blessed by this episode. 444 00:32:21.799 --> 00:32:23.200 Let us know when to hear from you. You can reach out to 445 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:27.920 me, Daniel at Love Life Dot Org. You reach her Vicky at Love 446 00:32:28.000 --> 00:32:30.549 Life Dot Org. And until next time, God bless God, bless you 447 00:32:30.710 --> 00:32:38.869 all, and Merry Christmas, Mary, Christmas. Give our love for love. 448 00:32:43.589 --> 00:32:52.019 Give me our love for gratitude. I know it will cost me my 449 00:32:52.380 --> 00:32:59.769 life. Nothing's too precious in some you